EQ vs WoW

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Teako [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did you really make a montage of playing a hunter in PvP during the time set where hunters were the single strongest class in all aspects of PvP? Where scat/trap had quite literally no counterplay on a 15 second CD that started immediately with a 10s duration and no DR - leaving 5 seconds of window to attack per scat/trap + aimed+mana drain or aimed+conc directly into another scat-trap for unreturnable damage? Even playing a Troll so you had free hit% and berserking for burst windows in PvP? You literally min/maxed the most braindead class in the entire game.. then made montages out of it. The only way I would respect this even less is if you had continued making the same videos into TBC where Hunters got even easier to play.

Oh honey. No. Just no. When you bowl with the bumpers on you don't get a trophy for bowling a 300.

Orc is better min/max race for the stun resistance. Scatter trap had DR with each other in 1.12 when I filmed that

What else? Oh yeah I was top 10 ranked in 3v3 and rank 1 in 5v5 TBC where our team had around a 90% winrate. For a short while we had the highest 5v5 rank out of US, EU, and Asia servers

Cry on

[Tunabros]

it's definitely a fun game for sure but I just wish items were more rewarding to get

I was getting upgrades for my gear like once per hour lol

[Bardp1999]

Need the WoW/EQ hybrid. Hardcore grind and EQ rules/gear with WoW type gameplay. Pantheon isn't going to be it.

There is someone kinda trying to do this (literally) but it will be a private WoW server bull shit type thing and not a developed game. I was in their discord for a while but I cant find the link now - shits been in development for a long time, not sure its ever really happening

[unsunghero]

I was able to put up some good scores on the ultra-rare occasions I could get PuG vs PuG BG’s in classic, and this was just in T1 raid gear with epic quest bow, a far cry from the r14 gear I had in vanilla WoW

Classic BG’s for some reason turned into a full-premade-only meta. I ran in an undefeated (out of hundreds of matches) WSG premade back in vanilla, where we would challenge other servers in our battlegroup to get their 10 best WSG players and keep queueing until we got the same queue as them and then smoke them 3-0. But I wasn’t that hardcore in classic WoW

Some of the pug va pug BG’s I could get in classic, my char was same as my vanilla char just with an extra s. Last pic was classic char’s gear (nothing to write home about, but enough to tear it up in solo BG’s)

[MaCtastic]

Shadowbane was better. When an internet tough guy threatens to knock your teeth out, you could just go sac their guild tree.

[unsunghero]

Also, you can’t viper sting mana drain a freezing trapped target. It’s considered a DoT tick and breaks freezing trap

Shadow priests are vicious in 1v1 scenarios because of this, so the best play is indeed to viper them oom but to do it while kiting outside of your max range with cheetah (they have the same 41yard range with their spells as I do)

But yeah a well played hunter was a powerhouse in vanilla and TBC. But then again so was mage and lock was arguably stronger. I could never 1v1 beat my HWL warlock friend who eventually became my 3v3 arena partner when he was SL/SL spec, too tanky

[Naethyn]

I played hunter on release and snarler had 100 to all resists. I went engineering and gnomish invis device made the pet invulnerable to attacks. The best pvp build was a mix of stuns, avoidance, melee, with snares that root and scattershot. True rogue destroyer.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Naethyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I played hunter on release and snarler had 100 to all resists. I went engineering and gnomish invis device made the pet invulnerable to attacks. The best pvp build was a mix of stuns, avoidance, melee, with snares that root and scattershot. True rogue destroyer.

No stuns, BM spec was best for leveling only, it had intimidation stun

You prolly mean scattershot, which isn’t a stun but a disorient that is broken by damage. The best pvp spec was something like 3-5 pts in BM foe humanoid slaying, 31 in MM for true shot aura/scattershot, and Survival tree down to 5/5 entrapment and deterrence

The best pet for pvp was any cat with a 1.2 attack speed like mine, The Rake, or ideally Brokentooth which had a 1.0 attack speed, which I didn’t want to bother camping so never got it. I preferred the look of The Rake cat more, and the tiny difference in attack speed was negligible

The reason u wanted the fastest attack speed pet was for spell pushback, the rapid fire hits made it hard for casters to get spells off with pet hitting, the pet’s damage was largely irrelevant

In TBC this changed, the best pet became scorpid due to it having a poison DoT. The poison damage was irrelevant but because it and our mana drain, viper sting, were both poisons it meant that shamans, Druid’s, and paladins poison dispel had a chance of hitting the scorpid poison instead of viper string. This meant they would have to waste a global cooldown on another cast of their dispel and a potential additional viper sting tick to eat more of their mana. But I wouldn’t rely on draining out mana to win, that was noob shit. I would coordinate CC’s with partner and gib someone out. But regardless scorpid was the arena pet due to the poison, which was known as “masking” viper

I also got around 2100 with a warlock wearing blue quest gear in 3v3 for fun because I was used to playing pet classes at that point, so it translated well

[unsunghero]

In regards to east to play, in TBC arenas I was utilizing 55 different hotkeys and micromanaging a pet. If a class is so easy why didn’t you pick it up for easy free glad titles? Did you get any? I got gladiator x2, arena master (2200+ rating in 2v2, 3v3, and 5v5)

Hunters were not easy to excel on, but did do well if the person knew what they were doing, and you didn’t do well not because of the class you picked but because you were bad. So to feel better about being bad you blamed your class

[Naethyn]

100 to all resists was the best pet for pvp. The rake was a pve pet and would get polymorphed by mages. Snarler was never polyd.

The stun I meant was:
https://classic.wowhead.com/item=105...-rocket-helmet
Also amazing snare:
https://classic.wowhead.com/item=441...mbobulator-ray
Clicking this meant a pet was invulnerable to melee dmg:
https://classic.wowhead.com/item=439...loaking-device

I absolutely dominated any duel outside iron forge.