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Old 04-25-2022, 06:29 PM
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forget the teams

make it city vs city

like Felwithe obviously beats Kelethin

not even a contest, just the mages and chanters alone would beat kelethin

it would literally be raining wood elves

Cabilis vs Kaladim - Kaladim wins

Neriak vs Freeport - this would be one hell of a contest.

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Old 04-25-2022, 06:31 PM
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I used to be heartily against teams, but ol Nilbog had the East vs West teams concept like a hundred years ago and it seemed like a viable way to balance two different teams.

But I'd look at the class / race makeup on actual green and blue servers and see how people play each class to try to make it as balanced as possible because some people are just going to follow their prefered Race and I'd wanna make sure that the teams makeups don't guarantee one team is weak just because some of the favorite races are on one team and not the other, despite being mechanically balanced.

But p99 team has that data and could balance accordingly.
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forget the teams

make it city vs city

like Felwithe obviously beats Kelethin

not even a contest, just the mages and chanters alone would beat kelethin

it would literally be raining wood elves

Cabilis vs Kaladim - Kaladim wins

Neriak vs Freeport - this would be one hell of a contest.

Grobb vs. Ogguk - this would be hilarious
This would be awesome for a discord or other short term type of server and I'd play 100%
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Old 04-25-2022, 07:43 PM
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I used to be heartily against teams, but ol Nilbog had the East vs West teams concept like a hundred years ago and it seemed like a viable way to balance two different teams.
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I think a PVP server would attract more people if they made it less harsh for these bluebies. Would still be fun... a server full of some type of PVP is better than no PVP at all. Here are some ideas from another thread:

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To those upset about asymmetrical pvp.

Asymmetrical pvp is fun. If you give the weaker side opportunities to have the same gear/stats/stealth. And still can achieve victories.

Really fun to switch to the smaller side. Hardcoded pvp stats with stat caps at 150 in pvp and maximum 5 lvl range difference on pvp atk/def/resist regardleswould of character lvl would achieve this. Unresistable nukes. And no exp death from mobs. Everyone respawns in full gear. Bind only in melee bindpoints only. Let weaker forces pell raid targets, ks, train, etc.
With this type of watered down version of PVP, the server would need to be a NO RULES server. Let the people govern themselves, except obvious hacking. As Starkind mentioned, training, KS, etc are all allowed. The trade off is, PVP death isn't as brutal, and the fights are actually more fun & meaningful when A.) people aren't dashing for the zoneline / B.) people are on a more even playing field.

I would also suggest if they went the Teams route - disable common tongue. It has been mentioned before. Give people a reason to learn all the languages. Cross-team communication shouldn't be easily achievable if at all possible. Maybe disable cross-team trading? Maybe the only way to reasonably obtain loot from a dungeon deep in enemy territory would be via item looting it off the other team.

Who knows, the possibilities for a fun PVP server are endless though.
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Old 04-25-2022, 08:32 PM
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Old 04-25-2022, 10:00 PM
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forget the teams

make it city vs city

like Felwithe obviously beats Kelethin

not even a contest, just the mages and chanters alone would beat kelethin

it would literally be raining wood elves

Cabilis vs Kaladim - Kaladim wins

Neriak vs Freeport - this would be one hell of a contest.

Grobb vs. Ogguk - this would be hilarious
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Old 04-25-2022, 11:34 PM
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Hate Warcraft and the no talking to enemy teams reminds me of shitty Warcraft.

I don’t think there’s any reason to disable common tongue.

I think we’re still going to have a GFaY trading hub for all peoples. Cutting communication just makes the world smaller.

The reason for no rules is to make there less for GMs to enforce.

Training sucks and should earn you community corpse camping.
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Old 04-25-2022, 11:48 PM
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If you keep common tongue, low INT races should start with 30 or 35 in the skill at best.

Humans 100 because its their only language. Intelligent races like 70?
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Old 04-25-2022, 11:59 PM
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Just to see skill
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We’re not custom fixing the entire game here. I’d love more quests more factioning and a reason to learn dragon but we’re looking for bare bones pvp in this thread
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Old 04-26-2022, 11:03 AM
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I want FV ruleset with item loot so bad.

I want people buying and selling insane loot they are getting off each other.
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Ya. That would be the perfect server rly.
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Wasn't FV the roleplay server?
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FVSZ brahs!

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SZ but more so - each faction is it’s own team. Even relatively allied factions.

Eg Bloodsabres can pvp vs Dismal Rage

Knights of Thunder vs Priests of Life.

Cross teaming allowed, but can’t be relied upon.

Maybe even make it so your faction standing with a player’s starter guild is what determines who they can attack/be attacked?!
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The main ruleset when people say FV ruleset is usually, everything is tradable. Nothing is no drop. (maybe epics and some quest items are iirc?)

It also was intended to be the roleplay server but it immediately became the min max server and had most server firsts etc.

But since it was intended to be an RP server, item loot is fun, and raid guilds being able to have gear advantage sucks, it makes the perfect item loot teams pvp eq server ruleset IMO.
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