Bard Starting Stat Debate Time, You Nerds

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Human basically min max fashion for every class!

Even I have a human for fashion. Human Enchanter.

[Vivitron]

Originally Posted by Borak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In any event, if we're talking about BIS or striving for BIS, you won't put points into DEX because odds are, you'll have a primal in your bag before you reach BIS. Once you proc avatar, your DEX goes up 100. I'm geared fairly well but not BIS, and once avatar procs, STR AGI DEX all hit 255.

The most important thing to do, if you haven't committed yet, is to choose human. It's a bit late for me to reroll but if I could I'd choose human for the most important reason - when you click halfling mask and then proc avatar, you become a barbarian sized halfling. I'm stuck at human sized halfling because I rolled wood elf. Learn from my mistake!

I think illusion: werewolf and avatar proc probably stacked in this era on live but I haven't been able to pin down enough evidence. How cool would it be to be even a human sized werewolf?

[Ennewi]

https://wiki.project1999.com/Divine_Intervention

Bestows the favor of the gods upon your target, granting them a second chance at life should they fall in battle. Consumes a pair of emeralds when cast. The chance for this to succeed is affected by the target's charisma.

Note: Mechanics of this spell are such that any hit taken while the player is between 15% and 1% health has a chance to proc a CH and consume the DI. This is why it only very rarely works against Death Touch, the player must have had to be under 15% first which likely would've gotten them killed by low hp aggro anyways.

Never really heard of DI being used on bards, but if the comment about death touch is correct than that would add more late game value to any starting point investment in charisma, particularly when blood aggro kiting/fteing in fear. That said, even without prioritizing the stat, at max level it's easy to reach 130 worn. And, with epic mod appied, Solon's Charismatic Concord amounts +80 cha.

[Duik]

Add to wiki newb pages as well.
Gods work must mean math > resist > hp > the rest.
Yes, because everyone has and WILL get BIS gear. Ya Dingus. YDG Ya Din Gus
At least ya got one thing correct.

[ya.dingus]

Originally Posted by Duik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Add to wiki newb pages as well.
Gods work must mean math > resist > hp > the rest.
Yes, because everyone has and WILL get BIS gear. Ya Dingus. YDG Ya Din Gus
At least ya got one thing correct.

Yes because we should consider non-min max options in a min max discussion.

Someone is salty for being wrong.

That's okay though, I love dunking on mouth breathing boomers all day, and this forum is in no short supply of them. I'm like the larry bird of forum post trash talk. I live for it.

If you don't have the maths, you don't have room to talk.

Despite our disagreements, Misty is like the only person I legitimately respect on these forums.That's saying a lot, because I don't hold many if any of you in high regard, if at all.

Shout out to Misty for the work.

[Crede]

People throw around BiS like it’s the equivalent in ease of killing an orc pawn. most people just don’t even get remotely close. It’s a shitload of dkp and you’re better off just spreading that around multiple characters. Cha is technically the min max for wars too, but no war is putting their starting stats in cha.

Cha is not a waste as a bard but know that you’re missing out on 100 hp for probably the lifetime of your character since 99.9% of bards are not getting bis including ya dingus.

[Jimjam]

By DSM's suggested BIS

9 sta human

14 sta half elf

dump charisma.


didn't calculate wood elf

edit 19 sta for wood elf