monk ratios, primary and offhand choices

[fortior]

I got a priceless fist now and it rules

[Vivitron]

Originally Posted by 7thGate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Stunned, mezzed and DA players automatically drop to the bottom of the aggro list, so can you spinstun yourself with a orb of confusion to drop aggro if you're DPS? I don't know, I don't have one and haven't gotten around to asking someone to test it.

On p99, the da aggro drop is only while the da is active, after it wears off you get the aggro back.

According to TAKP research, when you da the aggro is supposed to drop permanently. So you should be able to use a bard in a wizard group or da ears to go wild with dragonbanes on vyemm, for example. TAKP made a game balance or classic experience decision to use unclassic da aggro mechanics like on p99, where da only drops the aggro while da is active and gives you all the aggro back once it drops.

It is probably a bigger balance issue over there in PoP where wizards are dps beasts. It read to me like velious era is supposed to have the da drop aggro permanently, too. I'm not sure if anyone has tried to get p99 to implement that.

[sammoHung]

Runed Fighter Staff is the best droppable weapon 1-50.

T Staff is best droppable weapon 50-60.

Herbalist Spade > IFS simply for the root proc. Paralyzing Earth has saved my ass loads of times. Easy to solo a melee mob if you can root it, back up and bandage, then get back to killing it.

Gozzrem's Shovel is amazing. I was doing close to top DPS with Focus, VoG and Shovel. Hitting for 250s, 300s + occasional triple attack. Bumped up to 500+ with innerflame.

Outside of Gharn's Rock or Tunare fist, 2hb is always better. The procs on the Gharn rock and Tunare fist add alot of DPS, but their melee damage isnt as good. It's all about the damage bonus.

When you have 100% haste, the slower, harder hitting weapons pay dividends.

For instance: with VoG + Worn haste.

T Staff is 29 damage, 15 delay At level 60 it's +28 damage bonus every 1.5 seconds. (Plus h2h in between swings.)

Adam Club mainhand, 15 damage, 13 delay. 10 damage bonus.
SoS offhand 17 damage, 14 delay. no damage bonus.

Replace with IFS/Herb Spade or PB and get similar numbers.

[Cecily]

RFS sounded like so much fun to level with that I tried to buy one and made a new monk before I decided against spending 100k on a temporary weapon for a ridiculously easy to level class.
CoF/Fungi/T-staff isn't optimal, but I used that from level 1 and burned through the levels np.

[sammoHung]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

RFS sounded like so much fun to level with that I tried to buy one and made a new monk before I decided against spending 100k on a temporary weapon for a ridiculously easy to level class.
CoF/Fungi/T-staff isn't optimal, but I used that from level 1 and burned through the levels np.

It's really good at 50+ too, but the T Staff is much better 50+...

But that RFS 1-50 is a buzzsaw. No single mob blue con or under ever gave me any trouble 1-50 with that thing.

[Lune]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

RFS sounded like so much fun to level with that I tried to buy one and made a new monk before I decided against spending 100k on a temporary weapon for a ridiculously easy to level class.

Yea but god damn it was fun

Plus it's an item that keeps value well, wish I still had it

[Raralith]

Great info on the thread especially about low vs. high AC raid targets. I'm reviewing the monk weapon DPS spreadsheet, and I'm trying to figure out what my next weapons goals are for raiding so I wanted to get some thoughts from the knowledgeable people here.

I'm currently using T-staff for 2HB OR epic fist + Scepter of Mastery depending on target. I've got very sparse access to ToV monk weapons (no VP) so it's hard for me to get Facesmasher, Shovel of the Harvest, Fist of Lightning, Baton of Flame, or Wurmscale Fistwraps but if one becomes available I'll be more then happy to spend DKP on it. What I do have right now though is plat so I'm considering buying a ST key and loot rights for Priceless Velium Fistwraps and an Essence Mace. From a min/max perspective and judging from this thread, I'm hesitant to buy these because 1) I'll more then likely be using a 2HB for most raid targets, and 2) the DPS increase comparing these two relative to epic fists on the primarily are 13% and 17% more, respectively, for the cost of ~450k plat. Wurmscale Fistwraps give a 20% DPS increase, and Baton of Flame 24% excluding proc. So, my question is, just continue using the epic fists + SoM when not using 2HB and just wait patiently for better NTOV 1HB/fists OR spend the 450k for ST gear is worth it (assuming I dont have unlimited plat and that's everything I have)?

[WarpathEQ]

$450k is probably an understatement, atleast on green to get all of that. Seems like the Key/prismatic scale is $500k alone, haven't seen a price on the priceless velium.

I personally would just be patient and wait for an NToV drop, even if you don't have many opportunities if that's your sole focus pretty high chance you get it when it drops.

If you don't have beads yet then 100% save your cash, beads are way more useful than any weapon upgrades.

[Goregasmic]

What's the reason behind 2hb sucking on high AC targets? You often get low damage hits so the extra delay is a waste? Outside of high end raiding are those targets common?

Also someone mentionned little is known about the 2h bonus formulas. How accurate are the damage calculators like this one out there? I understand nothing beats a parse but one can only parse if they already own the coveted weapon.

As for OP, if it wasnt clear enough, 2HB win over 1HB until you're in your high 40s because the damage bonus only starts kicking in significantly at that point. Even then dual wield means your offhand will still miss a fair bit so a very good 2hb can still win especially if you consider ripostes/damage shields/hate generated.

Offhand has no damage bonus so ratio always wins. As for main hand, speed often rules as faster hitting weapons mean taking advantage of the damage bonus on each hit more often, meaning faster weapon can often outdamage slower weapons with a better ratio to a certain point.

[Keebz]

Originally Posted by Raralith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've got very sparse access to ToV monk weapons (no VP) so it's hard for me to get Facesmasher, Shovel of the Harvest, Fist of Lightning, Baton of Flame, or Wurmscale Fistwraps but if one becomes available I'll be more then happy to spend DKP on it. What I do have right now though is plat...

If you want raid gear, I suggest joining a raid guild.