Eliminate MQ

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

MQing was not known by most people during classic. There absolutely is evidence to back it up too, like all of the forum posts and quest/item writeups that existed. Not to mention those of us who played back then and have said it wasn't known.

Regarding EQ websites, people of course knew about the major ones, but most people weren't able to be on the internet at work, and then when they came home from work to play the game, they couldn't be on EQ and a website at the same time. EQ took up the entire screen back then and there was no way to switch to the desktop (not to mention the extra lag even if you could do both at the same time). People were mainly only visiting EQ websites when the game was down.

Guess your server experience was different. On both my play and CSR server people were MQing in early 2000 for instance. Not really sure why quest writeups mean MQs weren't happening, as I said before there are plenty of quest pages on Allakhazam where you can go into the comments and see people saying things like "just MQ this part" or something like that.

Again, the part about classic that people seem to forget is that your experience was largely dictated by the other people on your server.

[Jimjam]

You learn about MQing the first time you hand in bone chips and the person before you dumped their spares…

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You learn about MQing the first time you hand in bone chips and the person before you dumped their spares…

Lol too true

[Rimitto]

You know what's classic.... being able to drop money and being able to put bags inside of other bags.
p99 doesn't offer either of these features.

I'm prosing that the issue of MQ isn't solely about being classic, because clearly there's not THAT much care about being 1:1 classic.

[Jimjam]

I don’t remember empty bags inside bags. Not saying it couldn’t happen.

The most classic thing I miss is being able to give uncharmed npcs items. People would bling up the priests of discord in newbie cities!

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don’t remember empty bags inside bags. Not saying it couldn’t happen.

The most classic thing I miss is being able to give uncharmed npcs items. People would bling up the priests of discord in newbie cities!

you don't remember it because Rimitto is someone's AI chat bot they are testing

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I said before there are plenty of quest pages on Allakhazam where you can go into the comments and see people saying things like "just MQ this part" or something like that.

There are more pages that show people didn't know about it. Even among top guilds it clearly wasn't known about to the extent it is now, otherwise more epics would have been getting completed. Show links from before 2001, btw.

[cd288]

So your argument is that because there are pages where an MQ wasn't mentioned it means people didn't know about MQs...despite the fact that there are pages where MQ was mentioned? Lol.

Also, re: epics if we're talking purely about the classic era, then the amount of time epics were out and the quests were solved was extremely limited. IIRC they came out mid-September 2000. There were months spent just trying to figure out where things dropped, off of what, etc. So you're really looking at a few months of classic where epic quest knowledge was more solid. Second, MQs for epics specifically would've been less frequent as most people in the guilds doing the encounters needed the drops still. This is demonstrated by the fact that you don't see as many comments about MQing epics until post-classic era but you do see discussions about MQ generally during the classic era.

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So your argument is that because there are pages where an MQ wasn't mentioned it means people didn't know about MQs

That's not what was said. If you were actually reading EQ forums during classic era, it's apparent most people didn't know about MQing, definitely not to the same degree as now. Even when some people knew about MQ in certain instances, they were scared of doing a quest wrong and losing their items. It wasn't known that MQ always works for every quest. Also, if MQing really was well known during classic, all kinds of no-drop MQ items would have been getting constantly advertised and sold. That was not the case.

Interested to see these links you keep talking about.

[Jimjam]

What I remember from classic eq sites was endless asking of questions "is this MQable?"