Best 4 person all melee/hybrid group

[Troxx]

Honestly if it’s a choice between Ranger and rog; I’d lean into the Ranger. Less DPS for sure but I will admit that all the “other” they bring to the table likely will have a much bigger impact than the difference between the rog and Ranger dps. Sow, attack buffs, regen, dmg shield, CoE, harmony, long duration snare, ability to help cc in a pinch and (yes I know I poo poo’d it earlier) a 50% slow.

Exception of course being whether or not there are locked doors you want to hunt behind.

[Toxigen]

i guess it depends on the hypotheticals...but i don't think rogue is the questionable 4th

its between monk and ranger...and it depends

full twink group with all epics rdy to go at 46? - ok maybe ranger then

self-found / funded / fresh start with no existing plat? - definitely monk

but its bard / paladin / rogue for the core 3

[Vivitron]

It's at least a little tempting to say 4 monks, especially if they already have a lot of resources on the server. Get that full group flop.

[cd288]

Agree Rogue absolutely needed. Bard can pull if you want to swap out the Monk and have the Ranger throw regen and low level Druid buffs on the Pally.

[Keebz]

If not twinked, I actually think rogue is pretty trash, at least until they find a good MH piercer. What's the best piercer they can reasonably attain? Frozen Shard in the 50's? Similar for Monk, but I guess you just spend a lot of time in KC and hope for the best?

I'm slightly different in that my core 3 I like are BRD/PAL/RNG/X with either MNK or ROG as the 4th.

The RNG is there mainly just to swarmcaller things, but the added utility would be pretty sweet (tracking for self found is real good). To this end, I could see swapping in WAR for RNG, since they can truncheon (a much harder drop to come by though) and maybe their overall tankiness (esp w/ disc) unlocks something. But the overall logic is the slow is both better (50%) and also frees the bard up to provide more value, so it double dips in a sense.

EDIT: I should stipulate I'm going off the premise of self found.

[Zuranthium]

Bard still has to use slow until a Proc weapon triggers, I don't find much extra value there. Would rather have a Rogue and kill everything faster. I'm not getting the concern about available weapons, Swarmcaller is only 46+ to begin with. You could go join a Plane of Fear raid at 46 as a Rogue and get a good piercer, there are multiple that drop and normally are just thrown away.