Pantheon Rise of the Fallen

[Duik]

5 yrs ago it was new. Exciting even.
Now it is just an emu with new (different?) clothes, and a money (coke) sink.
I'm sorry Brad fucked it for everyone. He did good, then failed (wrapped in plastic). Get over it.

But keep falling for it.
Ask them if they accept bitcoin.
Or Golden basketball shoes.

[shovelquest]

Idk... it looks exactly like everquest.

Im not gonna sit here and talk shit on a game that looks like everquest.

Whats with your like, need to hate on this game?

Originally Posted by Duik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But keep falling for it.

It's a fuckn toy dude. Not a crypto.

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by Knuckle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think that there is fun to be had, its just a very small world for a MMO.

I heard its small, tbh at least that means I can quit playing sooner than later, which is part of the attraction to starting a new game that reminds me of EQ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Swish]

But is it more fun than rolling an alt on EQ?

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But is it more fun than rolling an alt on EQ?

I literally was wondering this, because I was like thinking it was so simliar to EQ... its part of why I haven't pulled the trigger.

I was in the middle of watching a shaman video and I was like, this is literally eq.

The guys on that stream I linked were talking about the major differences (I watch that stream a lot).

They said in Pantheon, the dps output from enemies is much higher than it is in eq.

So like, one tiny F up and the whole party gets wiped.

Which.. a more hard core, eq experience.. might be fun to master! And also remind me of the good old days when we all sucked at EQ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I also just don't know if I want to put the effort of mastering it.

[Duik]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Idk...
Boring stuff...



It's a fuckn toy dude. Not a crypto.

I didnt ask if it was crypto, I asked if they'd accept it.
Are they still asking for kickstarter/pre-release money?

The toys I buy are all finished and i can use them to the fullest.
Jetski. Remote control car. Motorcycle. Computer.

All bought knowing their limitations but basically finished goods. Not a gimmie more cash so I can supply you a "concept of a game" (that is 5+ yrs in the making) Eq was made in 1998 onwards with waaaay less design tools available. No 3d engines to use less programming libraries to leverage.

I dont hate it per se, i hate the concept of people being happy to pay for an incomplete grift that keeps on grifting. Like a youngen I worked with was happy to donate to CS something or other with the parachute release. He was happy to pay for crap in the hope it was good. Fuck that. Make ya game fuckers. I will decide, as will others to buy it or not.
So.
Make a game. Offer your version of it, take an artistic risk. M&M comes to mind.
YMMV.

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by Duik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I didnt ask if it was crypto, I asked if they'd accept it.
Are they still asking for kickstarter/pre-release money?

The toys I buy are all finished and i can use them to the fullest.
Jetski. Remote control car. Motorcycle. Computer.

All bought knowing their limitations but basically finished goods. Not a gimmie more cash so I can supply you a "concept of a game" (that is 5+ yrs in the making) Eq was made in 1998 onwards with waaaay less design tools available. No 3d engines to use less programming libraries to leverage.

I dont hate it per se, i hate the concept of people being happy to pay for an incomplete grift that keeps on grifting. Like a youngen I worked with was happy to donate to CS something or other with the parachute release. He was happy to pay for crap in the hope it was good. Fuck that. Make ya game fuckers. I will decide, as will others to buy it or not.
So.
Make a game. Offer your version of it, take an artistic risk. M&M comes to mind.
YMMV.

EverQuest wasn’t finished.

How is this a grift?

[Ekco]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How is this a grift?

too early to tell right now, if the servers shutoff in a couple months due to not enough double-down backers (kick starter + 40 dollar EA) to fund further development after a decade one could argue it's a grift based on like wtf was the actual plan there finance wise

if in a couple months the population is 30% higher with actual progress and a roadmap to success then it isn't

i hope it does well, as with any game. looks pretty shit to me though.( i only watched 5minutes of some dude's stream on EQ launch day )

[Duik]

Read a bit more of the stuff I wrote.

Like. 1998 had almost zero tools to create 3d interactive worlds. Now we have multiple 3d engines. Graphics libraries. Computing power and still the devs have 6 zones, incomplete almost everything quests, tradeskills itemizing but they still ask for money before priducing anything remotely eq like.
Ask for cash. Promise stuff... dont deliver. All while arguably having an easier time to produce interwsting content with the engine/graphics being produced more easily.

If you cant see that im sorry.

The eqemu community has better world building tools at its disposal and its a hodge podge of underlying c/c++ with an overlay of perl/lua scripting for us dumbies to play with.

[Ekco]

Originally Posted by Duik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The eqemu community has better world building tools

Shards of Dalaya and other emu servers have done more innovative shit with eq than ive seen triple A studios do for the mmo industry