Velious Solo/Duo Challenge Official Thread (and Trio/Group)

[Tewaz]

All the fake restrictions by Zuranthium do is make an attempt take longer. It's something that is a complete non factor but he's adding it for his own personal pleasure.

Can you not lull and fight your way to a mob? Sure. Can you make your charisma 50 to get more crit resists so you have to gate or cap and start over? Sure.

All it does is waste time. I doubt Z even plays on this server anymore but he spends all his time in the forums arguing to add more shit that makes the server more annoying to play. It's probably the lamest thing I've ever seen from a player.

[kjs86z2]

Originally Posted by Tewaz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All the fake restrictions by Zuranthium do is make an attempt take longer. It's something that is a complete non factor but he's adding it for his own personal pleasure.

Can you not lull and fight your way to a mob? Sure. Can you make your charisma 50 to get more crit resists so you have to gate or cap and start over? Sure.

All it does is waste time. I doubt Z even plays on this server anymore but he spends all his time in the forums arguing to add more shit that makes the server more annoying to play. It's probably the lamest thing I've ever seen from a player.

same guy saying all warriors should be weapon swapping between 2H swing timer too

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Tewaz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All the fake restrictions by Zuranthium do is make an attempt take longer. It's something that is a complete non factor but he's adding it for his own personal pleasure.

Can you not lull and fight your way to a mob? Sure. Can you make your charisma 50 to get more crit resists so you have to gate or cap and start over? Sure.

All it does is waste time. I doubt Z even plays on this server anymore but he spends all his time in the forums arguing to add more shit that makes the server more annoying to play. It's probably the lamest thing I've ever seen from a player.

Yeah I am not sure why he is trying to spearhead this effort based on his other comments recently:

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It sounds like I shouldn't waste years of my life gearing another character on a dead end game, to do something that was solved long ago. It's not even possible to obtain BIS Monk equip right now, and the fight can already be calculated outside the game to determine if it's realistic or not.

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have more experience with this game than you do and far more skill as a gamer. Have you ever won tournaments and actual money? Ever ranked high globally at an actual competitive thing? No, you haven't. I don't need to log on and do anything. I've already played more than enough EQ since 1999. It's not the role of a retired athlete to spend their time on the field. They move onto coaching, officiating, or professional analysis to impart their expertise.

Zuranthium's best solo kill is apparently a Cliff Golem on a Druid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqNfDrTpG_Q

He hasn't done any Velious Solo Challenge content that I am aware of. Yet he wants to suddenly do a guide on it.

[loramin]

Zura might be new to this "trying to build consensus" thing, but at least he's trying. If no one tries, the wiki doesn't get a Solo Artist Challenge page with Velious mobs on it.

What I think everyone (Zura included) should ask themselves is not "what do I want to be the standards?", but "what can we all agree on as standards (even if it means living with some minor stuff I disagree with)?"

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Zura might be new to this "trying to build consensus" thing, but at least he's trying. If no one tries, the wiki doesn't get a Solo Artist Challenge page with Velious mobs on it.

At this point people just need to make their own challenges and promote them. The "comminity" solo artist challenge page isn't very useful anymore, as the community is not allowed to participate in it. In essence it is "Zuranthium and Loramin's solo challenge", using the pretense of a community effort.

[Crede]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

At this point people just need to make their own challenges and promote them. The "comminity" solo artist challenge page isn't very useful anymore, as the community is not allowed to participate in it. In essence it is "Zuranthium and Loramin's solo challenge", using the pretense of a community effort.

And the current one is Loraen's & his A'team buddies coming up with one in 2012 kunark claiming god tier while posting little to no videos.

So yea, it's probably better to just come up with your own as the community will likely not agree on one unless we have some official solo artist council that can represent the community and can vote on the evolution of the SAC similar to how any set of rules is done in any sport

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And the current one is Loraen's & his A'team buddies coming up with one in 2012 kunark claiming god tier while posting little to no videos.

This feels like an unfair criticism, since the community in general wasn't recording videos back then. Nevertheless, the original Solo Artist thread is full of documented solo attempts ... they were just documented with screenshots.

Check the link: there's an attempt with a screenshot on page 2, two more on page 3, another on 4, another on 5, and so on. In fact, the thread has documented attempts throughout. It's not like all the soloers back then were photoshopping screenshots to claim soloes they never did ... it's just that screenshots seemed like perfectly ok proof for a completely fun and uncompetitive self-motivated challenge.

[Zuranthium]

DSM can you stop ruining yet another thread with your incorrect spam. I've done far more solo/duo content than you have. Even if the most I had ever done was a cliff golem with a druid, that's still more impressive than anything you've shown.

Originally Posted by Tewaz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's something that is a complete non factor but he's adding it for his own personal pleasure. All it does is waste time.

You always have a chip on your shoulder about people bringing classic mechanics to light. The lull changes are coming and nothing you say is going to stop it. This is absolutely not a "non-factor".

The entirety of doing challenges is mainly just a measure of time expenditure. It's all a "waste of time", unless you enjoy completing the challenge. Given that you don't seem to care about classic EQ in the first place, why are you even posting here?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

DSM can you stop ruining yet another thread with your incorrect spam. I've done far more solo/duo content than you have. Even if the most I had ever done was a cliff golem with a druid, that's still more impressive than anything you've shown.

This is the attitude that prevents you from actually making a solo challenge people will agree with. You are all talk, no show. Everybody else sucks except for Zuranthium, and Zuranthium doesn't have to prove it.

Other readers see this and take note. You haven't shown any velious solo challenge videos. I have.

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You haven't shown any velious solo challenge videos. I have.

So what? Thousands of people have done far more than you ever have. Most people just don't record themselves. There's not anything inherently different about killing something in Velious either, as compared to killing an equally difficult NPC elsewhere in the game world. Your videos show nothing special whatsoever. Everyone understands how to slow+torpor tank something on a Shaman and others do it with more efficiency than you and have killed much harder things than you.