I Dont Feel Like Playing My Mage Anymore....

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by Drueric [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So anyway, this is a topic about mages and how they have been nerfed so hard its not fun.

Always has been.

[Wakanda]

mage seems like the worst class to play, like in classic i thought they were badass. their pets were insane. on p99 charm is way diff, so magician pets become a meme. way better off just playing a necromancer if you want to play a pet class.

most of the magicians i know literally just get level 55 and park they selves for coth and are never touched again.

i dont consider this classic obvsly.

[Wakanda]

Originally Posted by Wakanda [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

mage seems like the worst class to play, like in classic i thought they were badass. their pets were insane. on p99 charm is way diff, so magician pets become a meme. way better off just playing a necromancer if you want to play a pet class.

most of the magicians i know literally just get level 55 and park they selves for coth and are never touched again.

i dont consider this classic obvsly.

also dont they pay 100k+ for their epic like

lol thats a of money for a summon bot

[WarpathEQ]

Originally Posted by Wakanda [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

also dont they pay 100k+ for their epic like

lol thats a of money for a summon bot

More like 800k+ atleast on green. I think people tend to way overlook the amount of gearing of melee toons on P99, mages and their pets feel like weak pieces of crap not because they are worse than live. As I understand it in the classic/planes eras on P99 mages were the meta and raid forces were often just mages swarming entire zones with their pets (i.e. sky especially).

Once Kunark drops, melee start getting much better gear and weapons and start to power up. Velious excellerates that even more, and being locked in Velious for a decade completely breaks the comparison. Mage, one of the least gear dependent classes in the game has very little impact by gearing (other than epic pet obviously being a boost mostly for solo stuff or powerleveling). And the gearing mages get at the high end, epic aside, gives them utility that has nothing to do with being a mostly AFK player that hits pet attack and expects their pet to go solo mobs for them.

[WarpathEQ]

Originally Posted by Drueric [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So anyway, this is a topic about mages and how they have been nerfed so hard its not fun.

I do find it highly ironic that OP has yet to specify a single nerf that has happened to mages.

In fact this entire thread that is supposedly about mage nerfs has only identified one single nerf that has occured to mages at all in P99 (pet agro dump on death mechanic) after 5 pages.

Lets call it what it really is, thread to complain about not being gud at 99 game

[cd288]

Originally Posted by WarpathEQ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

More like 800k+ atleast on green. I think people tend to way overlook the amount of gearing of melee toons on P99, mages and their pets feel like weak pieces of crap not because they are worse than live. As I understand it in the classic/planes eras on P99 mages were the meta and raid forces were often just mages swarming entire zones with their pets (i.e. sky especially).

Once Kunark drops, melee start getting much better gear and weapons and start to power up. Velious excellerates that even more, and being locked in Velious for a decade completely breaks the comparison. Mage, one of the least gear dependent classes in the game has very little impact by gearing (other than epic pet obviously being a boost mostly for solo stuff or powerleveling). And the gearing mages get at the high end, epic aside, gives them utility that has nothing to do with being a mostly AFK player that hits pet attack and expects their pet to go solo mobs for them.

People have also realized how risky pets are in a raid context. We know how their pathing can glitch and they can cause the entire raid to wipe. So the risk vs. the incremental DPS they add isn't worth it at all.

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by WarpathEQ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In fact this entire thread that is supposedly about mage nerfs has only identified one single nerf that has occured to mages at all in P99 (pet agro dump on death mechanic) after 5 pages

Pet attack range is now shorter than in classic, it seems, and the pets also may be casting their elemental effects less frequently than they're supposed to.

Other nerfs have happened to the pets on p99, but those were to bring them back to their classic stats.

[Ripqozko]

Mages are only fun in raids, if you aint quadding you aint really playing a mage. log on any other alt to exp/farm/group.

[Prismaticshop]

You can get your epic for just 800k from a farm crew auto-tracking in plane of hate.

GL HF!

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by Ripqozko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Mages are only fun in raids, if you aint quadding you aint really playing a mage.

The exact opposite. Quad DA is dumb and should never work in those instances, because NPC's (especially dragons!) should have enough brain to stop chasing a single irrelevant player when there are 100 others invading their lair.

What's fun about mage is doing big DPS, which is mainly applicable outside of raids since their damage spells suck on raid targets, and being able to "tank" with chain-summoned pets, which is now broken.