Big Beautiful "Bill"

[shovelquest]

Do we force everyone to join the peace corps for 5 years, and then the people they helped come back over and are enforced labor to make up for it for 5 years, and then they repeat the process so it's basically like a piston engine of slavery?

You can ask chat GPT to parse what i mean.

[shovelquest]

Waitaminuet.. what about all those people who "cant work" because of their "disabilities" that I clearly know is "them being psychopaths and lazy"...

Do i have to do the piece corpse forced labor to help them? Or do you secretly kill them so I don't ask questions like that.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do we force everyone to join the peace corps for 5 years, and then the people they helped come back over and are enforced labor to make up for it for 5 years, and then they repeat the process so it's basically like a piston engine of slavery?

You can ask chat GPT to parse what i mean.

It was most of them if not all of them who said we should have slavery in the 2019 primary debate.

Strongly recall klobuchar and butt having plans already drafted.

[shovelquest]

Im just being funny atomic but these are good points. Like, how can any system that isn't capitallism exist with the existance of psycopaths who only care about themselves?

In capitalism they can follow the laws and be fine. In any other system you'd have to destroy them. Or imprison them. Or geneticallyl test on them or something insane like that. And in all previous versions of systems thats exactly what happened until... drumroll: Capitalism *horns play. 🎉🥳

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Im just being funny atomic but these are good points. Like, how can any system that isn't capitallism exist with the existance of psycopaths who only care about themselves?

In capitalism they can follow the laws and be fine. In any other system you'd have to destroy them. Or imprison them. Or geneticallyl test on them or something insane like that. And in all previous versions of systems thats exactly what happened until... drumroll: Capitalism *horns play. 🎉🥳

Properly called Liberalism but that has baggage. No, not the democrats.

[shovelquest]

I think I prefer the system where a megalomaniac can build trillions of dollars of wealth and construct a space bridge or whatever the hell they want.

[atomicpaul]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Im just being funny atomic but these are good points. Like, how can any system that isn't capitallism exist with the existance of psycopaths who only care about themselves?

In capitalism they can follow the laws and be fine. In any other system you'd have to destroy them. Or imprison them. Or geneticallyl test on them or something insane like that. And in all previous versions of systems thats exactly what happened until... drumroll: Capitalism *horns play. 🎉🥳

i do not have all the answers but i do think that capitalism is an improvement on most previous isms, as i have said before. here we are, discussing it, something that did not exist for most of history. nobles have been impaled by pitchforks they technically owned, i am sure they thought it was ironic but were probably more concerned about not getting killed at the time.

but it still rewards psychopaths who only care about themselves, just like despotism and feudalism, but now the term is 'billionaire' rather than 'warlord' because the structural violence has been outsourced. see the 'made in china' label on most modern products, sub in a variety of other countries for that made-in part.

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It was most of them if not all of them who said we should have slavery in the 2019 primary debate.

Strongly recall klobuchar and butt having plans already drafted.

if they are on the debate stage, odds are they're not socialists, but i also understand you need to play the game to win the game.

i'm willing to eat my words if mamdani or aoc run at a national level, i'd be surprised but i've been surprised before. i don't have all the answers to these questions but i can spot flaws same as most folks. i know the helicopter is in trouble. i can not build a helicopter.

anyways this threads probably gonna get deleted, so hi fellers. see you in the discord.

[shovelquest]

Yeah it doesn't matter soon we will do Gog & Magog.

But you know its great that you mention psychopaths, so what is your solution to that natural born phenomenon, euthanasia?

[atomicpaul]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah it doesn't matter soon we will do Gog & Magog.

But you know its great that you mention psychopaths, so what is your solution to that natural born phenomenon, euthanasia?

slap drones. just because elon likes it doesn't make it a bad idea. non-lethal violence prevention gizmos that disable or incapacitate. they don't kill the offender, they just make the offender unable to do violence. specific variations might have to be a thing. that plus actually addressing structural flaws hopefully make it less common.

no, probably not perfect, but i think that's a better idea than our carceral system here in america or arguably worse places with yet worse prison systems.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by atomicpaul [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

slap drones. just because elon likes it doesn't make it a bad idea. non-lethal violence prevention gizmos that disable or incapacitate. they don't kill the offender, they just make the offender unable to do violence. specific variations might have to be a thing. that plus actually addressing structural flaws hopefully make it less common.

no, probably not perfect, but i think that's a better idea than our carceral system here in america or arguably worse places with yet worse prison systems.

Non-lethals are the final boot.