some people have to be banned to show the truth

[Wakanda]

Also I've never given a mob a -MR item on P99 and have leveled multiple Enchanters to 60 on P99. My current Enchanter just hit level 57 this morning. I know in theory you get the items back, but I'm too scared of losing items + I hate carrying a bunch of stuff in my bags.



I've also watched every Rektyou video and I never see him using -MR items in his videos, although I wouldn't be shocked if he doesn't use them and I doubt he would say they are useless. I've definitely had enchanters in my group use them. But I guess my point is that like.... you don't need -MR items to use charm with great success on P99.

In this case the Enchanter is doing the same aforementioned camp, and is only level 58. There's also a lot of other weird things people try to tell me. One of the big ones is that Dark Elf hide isn't useful for Enchanters. Yet I regularly use it to break Charm so effectively that I dread eventually equipping a Gazhugi ring because I don't want to crummy stats on it.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Ring_of_Stealthy_Travel

^I'm thinking about getting one of these instead?

[Wakanda]

Originally Posted by Wakanda [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I wouldn't be shocked if he doesn't use them

I mean to say I wouldn't be shocked if he DOES use them ... during his personal play time. No edit feature. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Wakanda]

Oh I also meant to point out that I think your level makes more of a difference than your +CHA / Tash. When I first started doing Grobb guards in my late 40s, even with Charisma & Tash, charm was breaking fairly often. Noticed that charm started to almost never break as I got closer to the mid 50s, so I experimented with not buffing my charisma or using tash (there's a few guards that kill each other really fast) and found out that I don't really seem to need them anymore. If I was lower level this would prob make the same content unplayable though.

[Wakanda]

I'm in a loop of these videos now



not to be a hater, but im not sure that these same strategies would work in 2025

pacify nerf pretty rough

[Jimjam]

Good posts Wakanda. I place lived experience highly in this kind of stuff as there are so many moving parts I don't believe it is possible to rigorously control variables in a more quasiexperimental set up.

[kjs86z2]

Originally Posted by Wakanda [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also I've never given a mob a -MR item on P99 and have leveled multiple Enchanters to 60 on P99.

Its worth it if you're going to be keeping a single pet for a long time or if you're doing something difficult enough where every charm break is life or death.

Its a pretty inexpensive kit. I've lost a couple steel hilted flint daggers, those hurt.

[Jimjam]

Blackburrow is very unclassic and produces a rediculous number of rusty spiked shoulders (among other loot).

[Ravager]

What happened to RnF? This isn't how I remember it.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Wakanda [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh I also meant to point out that I think your level makes more of a difference than your +CHA / Tash. When I first started doing Grobb guards in my late 40s, even with Charisma & Tash, charm was breaking fairly often. Noticed that charm started to almost never break as I got closer to the mid 50s, so I experimented with not buffing my charisma or using tash (there's a few guards that kill each other really fast) and found out that I don't really seem to need them anymore. If I was lower level this would prob make the same content unplayable though.

I believe from the code that the saves are equal and that none makes a larger difference than the other. I think level difference seems like it makes more difference because it's the one factor you can't really control as much. CHA you can buff and increase with gear (and you're not going to see a massive difference from 10-15 additional CHA, it's incremental so it feels like it doesn't make as visible a difference) and MR you can obviously tash (and a lot of general XP mobs aren't going to have really high MR anyway).

[cd288]

Originally Posted by kjs86z2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its worth it if you're going to be keeping a single pet for a long time or if you're doing something difficult enough where every charm break is life or death.

Its a pretty inexpensive kit. I've lost a couple steel hilted flint daggers, those hurt.

This. You wouldn't do it for charm killing unless you had to for some reason. But for the other commenter's example of a Seb skel pet, not giving them -MR gear is likely having an impact (that and the Ench didn't Tash lol).