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Old 08-26-2011, 04:32 PM
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Fuck that dude, Item loot would be so much fun on this server. Why do u think it will hurt the population. Any server with Rogeans stamp on it will be epic. If people know going in, that its item loot people shouldnt cry that they lose their gears. They should play better.
Please Rogean KEEP ITEM LOOT! Don't let these pussies sway you! At least try it out. If it's that detrimental to the server remove it. The fun part of item loot is trying to get the no drop gear.(happy love bracers ftw) And the grief that comes to the person that lost the gear.
Please don't ruin my immersion and leave out item loot. I need my Rallos Zek circa 1999. Where Anti-Pks consist of 80% of the server and the pks are shunned and frowned upon.
Pipe dream, players aren't of the same ability as they were in 1999, item loot has been tested in the present day with the players on this forum that are going to populate this server, it doesn't work - people bag their shit and run for the hills, it shows a MASSIVE decline in pvp. Why would people be any different, the only people left who will be affected by pvp loot will be the people who are terrible. Personally i like item loot, but it just doesn't promote pvp in the slightest, there are no "new" players coming to this server so you're taking a population of blue players, who like loot obviously and the pvp community who have tested this in the last year and it failed on a massive scale.

You won't get anything like your 1999 rallos, firstly because the player base isn't spasticated anymore, then there's the fact that there's no real tie to a free emulated server - they lose their gear "fuck this" bai.
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Old 08-26-2011, 04:40 PM
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Searyx doesn't have half a brain then.

I'll be the first to admit I was not a great GM. The playerbase burned me out and I was extremely bitter/tired near the end.

You earned some kind of punishment though. You had "watch/warn this guy" threads in the staff forum before I even took over. When I made a rule against raining AoE corpses at zonelines until we could figure out how to fix it, what did you (and others) do? You rained zonelines and were winning PvP because players would pop in zones with 25% HP. Guess who they complained to incessantly. No, really - guess. Sent screenshots to in PMs. Complained on the forums, calling for my immediate attention.

If you considered "the one overworked guy trying to hold the server up (for free) because nobody else wanted to do it, while Null and the other staff disappeared, who also had to manage the childlike antics/needs of the server host (Gronkus), while working a 9-to-7 job to make actual money", you are correct.

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Old 08-26-2011, 04:41 PM
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Lol more professional pvp moves by vztzject pvp wannabes:

AEing corpses(shouldn't be able to target a corpse to cast a targeted AE/rain) to hit players that couldn't respond.

Exploiting is so pro. I wish I was that good.
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Old 08-26-2011, 04:42 PM
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You P1999 guys need to realize there isn't going to be some big pow-wow meet-and-trade zone (EC tunnel) on a FFA red server where you can go to actually see the OOC and auction channels alive.
An you guys fail to realize that this wont be tz/vz
there will be more single players then boxers this time.. and even tho the population wont resemble live zeks, trades will still be done by the player base.
EC tunnel wont be used so anyone nostalgic about that zone can forget about it.. it will move to zones with actual banks (Gfay/EFP) an be heavily used by mules > players.
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Old 08-26-2011, 04:43 PM
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Don't act like people on the blue server don't also exploit the everliving shit out of the game. This is not something specific to red servers.
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Old 08-26-2011, 04:45 PM
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The playerbase burned me out and I was extremely bitter/tired near the end.

Have you considered sharing your experiences with the staff who have signaled their intention of making the exact same mistake?

You know which mistake i'm talking about don't you?

The same one Verant made and figured out fast. The same one VZTZ staff made before you showed up. The same one you made. The same one staff made after you left. The same one Red99 is chomping at the bit to make.
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Old 08-26-2011, 04:45 PM
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Don't act like people on the blue server don't also exploit the everliving shit out of the game. This is not something specific to red servers.
This is very true, everyone will always hack/cheat to do what best benefits them at the cost of whatever else.

This is why it's more detrimental on PvP servers, because the "cost of whatever else" is much higher to "everyone else" not doing it.
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Don't act like people on the blue server don't also exploit the everliving shit out of the game. This is not something specific to red servers.
Not even trying to come close to saying this.

A shitbag cheater is a shitbag cheater, regardless of the game, server, pvp, or not.

The difference here is that exploiting in pvp dicks over people, and not npcs. (You could argue that dicking over npcs via exploits/hacks etc. fucks with players indirectly, but it's not even close in terms of damaging to server health.)
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Old 08-26-2011, 04:46 PM
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If cast doesn't AIM me within 24 hours of the server going live telling me he has 50 blue diamonds it wouldn't seem like a pvp server.
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Old 08-26-2011, 04:53 PM
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You earned some kind of punishment though. You had "watch/warn this guy" threads in the staff forum before I even took over. When I made a rule against raining AoE corpses at zonelines until we could figure out how to fix it, what did you (and others) do? You rained zonelines and were winning PvP because players would pop in zones with 25% HP. Guess who they complained to incessantly. No, really - guess. Sent screenshots to in PMs. Complained on the forums, calling for my immediate attention.
Perfect example of why gms have no business getting involved in pvp.

Crash course for the clueless: All the top pvpers will be petitioned by those who do not understand what just happened. Or because they simply can't stand dieing, they will petition incessantly. If you don't have a "watch/warn this guy" by your name, then you aren't doing it right. I was petitioned daily on live and never banned because gms there were relatively much better than VZTZ staff. They could tell that despite appearances, I wasn't doing anything against the rules.

If a guy who plays eq, plays pvp emu, gms pvp emu, is involved with the gaming industry can't figure it out after all this time, then how can you expect the average gm to?

If you don't know how to gm, watch the guys who are petitioned every day. They are the ones who will teach you whats up.

If a gm thinks someone is doing something wrong, just because he is petitioned alot, fire that GM. Hes a moron who will wind up just like Searyx.

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