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Old 09-19-2011, 06:10 PM
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It's fucking classic, of course you can PVE in resist gear.
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Old 09-19-2011, 06:11 PM
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Plus, if you need "PVE gear" just make sure it's no-drop.
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Old 09-19-2011, 06:12 PM
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No item loot.
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Old 09-19-2011, 07:22 PM
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Billbike I played on rallos zek but started there in the middle of kunark and quit when POP came out. You're point about invincible twinks in classic is totally accurate.

In classic, twinking isn't as much of an issue. Item power skyrockets with kunark and continues with velious. My experience with twinks come from kunark and velious era so there is no point in describing a typical twink of various budgets. I will say that it was fun to try and kill them. Without item loot all I would do is avoid them, unless I was leveling up my own twink when I ran into this player and thought I'd have a face off even though it meant slowing down my own leveling process to get to the real part of the game.

Item loot didn't lead anywhere crrRaazyYyy like people keep imagining.

With item loot every level range has challengers worth facing for anyone interested in doing it. Without item loot the only goal is to get through your levels with as little resistance as possible, hit 50, and start actually playing the game, acquiring good gear and killing people that try to take your camps. Level 1-49 is just a job to finish as fast as you can.

Guy about crafted - I was using crafted as an example of gear that some anti-item loot girlyman would want to wear without losing it when he dies in PVP combat "I love its pale blue look". Someone with resist gear on would be risking that gear in PVP combat but with 100mr the caster is probably going to get pooped on by a melee worth his weight in anything. A naked caster will die ridiculously quickly. Grab a couple wooly spider root clickable nets and the caster is a dead man. Stop imagining boogymen casters that can't be hurt because they are so OP. gee. Of course the main factor in all of this will be how resists are handled.
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Old 09-19-2011, 07:31 PM
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Its not the boogie man, it's a short little white haired fuck with a red shirt and brown overalls, and a pocket full of malchites. And he is stealin your hard earned lewtz without risking any of his. Classic is not balanced in any way melees need gear to compete with casters, casters do not need it to compete with melee, melee will lose gear in said competition and become even less effective... it just makes sense.

Honestly it is not gamebreaking for me either way, but I just don't get how people don't see this.
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Old 09-19-2011, 07:53 PM
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Tombom in those situations you just gotta bag it. Melee's have a harder life, since its been over 10 years since EQ was released you know what you are getting into by playing a melee.

Item loot or not doesn't fix balance. Wear bronze or banded until you get 100mr and then stupid mage root wont land and then he dies in very few hits. But don't think i'm telling you it is fair at all. You're totally right. If you want low level PK easy mode then you definitely want to be a mage.

If you want to be cool, just be careful and put your stuff in bags if you need to.
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Old 09-19-2011, 08:09 PM
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Nothing stops people from killing their own race.
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Old 09-19-2011, 08:14 PM
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I'll be honest and say that choosing 1 non equipped item is the best compromise I've seen so far, but it doesn't balance the well geared Vs the poorly geared as well as normal item loot does. There is still not risk when you wear top notch stuff which is pretty lame, and anyone out hunting for people on the grind will definitely not have anything in their inventory worth stealing unless they just freshly killed your bro [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 09-19-2011, 08:34 PM
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Yeah if you go pvp in guk you'll still get a chance at some bagged item that dropped off their camp etc, I like it.
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Old 09-19-2011, 08:45 PM
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Agreed I think it's actually a great compromise.
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