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Old 03-21-2012, 11:54 AM
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Kautin, will you go and farm me 100pp?

Knowing you just helped me get from point a (my plat) to point b (my plat + 100 more) should be a reward in itself.
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Old 03-21-2012, 12:01 PM
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The idea that porting and buffing are entirely different is ridiculous.

Your time is worth nothing, you are playing Everquest. If you're giving a port, your time is being spent porting. Apparently in your case for plat. Therefore your time has gained value. Prior to that it had none.

You choose an action and engage in it. If someone attempts to interrupt said action you must personally weigh the pros and cons of given choice and make the proper forward motion. If you're camping something and someone asks you to port, obviously the decision as to which is more beneficial must play into factor.

What I'm getting at is that NO ONE drops their shit to port other people, for any reason. Giving up your camp or assuming that anyone would ask you to is insane. You port during your idle time so the argument that it somehow affects you otherwise is entirely invalid.
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Old 03-21-2012, 12:09 PM
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I almost always do.

What's the tip rate for Kunark? Someone said 300pp? That's extreme, I'll just take the boat.
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Old 03-21-2012, 12:13 PM
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Rilen, a porter making themselves available during "idle time" is giving up time they could be grinding solo, in most cases trading off the xp and plat from grinding for plat via porting (at less risk).

However, what you are stating is equivalent to saying someone should go and power level for free if they have idle time, as their time is worth nothing right?

If a druid has an option of grinding 500pp an hour, or porting for 300pp an hour, I'd hope he is porting, as that means it is easier for the community to travel.
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Old 03-21-2012, 12:14 PM
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I had a couple people pay VERY well for a quick port somewhere, and a few weeks later I was wandering around Qeynos helping a friend with quest turns and saw one of them /oocing for a CR port.

Remembering how generous they were I sent them a tell that I'd take them, and they're first response was "It's for a CR so I can't pay you til later if that is ok", and my response was "This ones on me, meet me at the gate"

I've had another where I saw a player asking in EC for a bind in FP, and I said I'd do it and meet me in WFP. on my I saw his corspe near the inn, and sent him a tell. He said he had gotten killed by the guard (he was an lvl 3 Iksar), and was bound in Cabalis. Felling bad for the guy (been there done that), I ported to DL, ran to LoIO and picked him up, brought him to WC, and ran him to WFP for the bind.

A few weeks later I got stomped by a giant in Rathe, but was still bound in FV at my kiting spot, and suddenly got a tell from the Iksar who came across my corpse and had a high level cleric with him, so he dragged my corpse to his party and they rezzed me, which saved me a little running.

Even in EQ, what goes around comes around.
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Old 03-21-2012, 12:15 PM
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Disclaimer: While I'm in favor of tipping porters/buffers, I have rarely ever gotten a tip when doing buffs (and in most cases I am giving out plat to lower levels).

I think what the OP was indicating is that if you have it and are stingy, you are being rude.

If you do not have it, he doesn't expect anything from you.

Using, "well, you said donation so that means I can give you nothing even though I have hundreds on me" is just a rude move.
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Old 03-21-2012, 12:20 PM
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port fee = level*2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
I had druid as main on live, and while I have never auctioned porting/buffing for donation, I still remember being VERY upset when a long time ago, my level 10 shaman was asked for SOW by some lev 50 dude, and didn't got as much as "thx" in return. At level 10 40 mana was a LOT for me. If he would given me as much as 5 gold, even then i would have been eternally grateful.

PS. personally I believe that this was a bad mechanic design by verant. No class should have gotten spells that can generate cash from other players. Wizard/Druid porting model works in 1 group DnD setting, but in MMo it gives unfair money generating advantage to these classes, while being balanced off by having penalized combat skills. Ports should have been self-only, or group port should cost a reagent that would cost like 500plat from a merchant.
Same applies to enchanter being the only one who can enchant bars.
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Old 03-21-2012, 12:24 PM
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I think a plat per level is pretty generous for most ports.

20pp for a port as an untwinked level 10 is expensive, while 100pp for a port at 50 as a non-solo class is expensive as well.
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Old 03-21-2012, 12:33 PM
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I remember lvling up my druid, and I was dead broke from the 100 spells I had to buy every 5 levels. A lot of people were saying how once I get ports I would make mad cash (1k + an hour ) by porting..... Now I just laugh at that. I never have charged for a port, and from newbies I cancel trade when they try to pay me their 1pp 5 gold tip. It's nice when you get that rich guy tipping 150+ once every 3 days or so, but if I averaged out each port (included the non charges) I'd make probably about 10pp a port. I used to port ALL the time, now I have no issues telling people I am not porting currently(unless it's the "hey can you spare a port for cr? ", those get me everytime). I get the same way though, I see a twink that has 300k + gear on him, and he tips 5pp, compared to a guy who is worth about 200 plat and tips 15.

Side topic, I have never charged for a rez on my cleric, and most times I refuse payment. I will even run a few zones over and rez people, or awhile back I was bound in unrest, and would pop in there once a day and check to see if anyone needed rezs(sometimes spending an hour rezzing). And then I try to get a rez for myself and the cleric messages back " well im 3 zones away..... so that is going to be 300pp ", when I know all they are doing is sitting in commons... Yea it's their right to charge, but still just rubs me the wrong way!
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Old 03-21-2012, 12:27 PM
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I get tips for cracking people, but nothing for SoWing them. I found that interesting.

I can see how time = pp. I guess the issue I have is that mana, casting a spell and medding is ultimately free. So then in essence you're paying for their time.

Still, 300pp+ just to get around in the game? I recall ports being like 20pp at most and desperate people paying MAYBE 100pp.

I found that sending a tell and working something out goes a lot farther than just throwing a bunch of money in someone's face.
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