FIX RESISTS

[SearyxTZ]

If he fixed root/snare then honestly who gives a shit about Clerics landing a nuke or two in pvp?


Their survivability was always great but they were still regarded as the worst 1v1 pvp class in the game in classic/kunark/velious (yes, worse than rangers/enchanters) as they have no other way of doing real damage aside from their shitty mana-inefficient nukes.

[Null]

Also just for context, here is the Cleric nuke:

Retribution
2568 @ 50 MR
1776 @ 100 MR
1296 @ 150 MR
1016 @ 200 MR

[Ladytron]

problem is wizards are spoiled, I had this wizard ask me once if he can rend on me because he never used it before... come on bro ice comet isnt the only spell available. learn to use conflag and rend as they are just as potent and usually everyone's stacking CR when you walk up

they are getting upset because 12 years later everyone knows how to stack and what items to get to stack resists and now its fucked... before it was different when people didnt all know about all the resist gear out there imo

[hagard]

Originally Posted by Null [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This shows the total damage for Wizard with 2000 mana casting Ice Comet / Conflag / Rend until they run out, this doesn't factor in mana regen or leftover mana (I assume whatever is left is for utility spells). Used 1000 casts per resist level

Ice Comet (this would be about 1/5 less for anything less than 2000 mana just fyi)
3690 @ 50 CR
2845 @ 100 CR
2005 @ 150 CR
1505 @ 200 CR

Conflagration
3256 @ 50
2488 @ 100
1688 @ 150
1344 @ 200

Rend
3605 @ 50
2744 @ 100
1925 @ 150
1477 @ 200

Does this seem unreasonable?

Dullah shat upon by big null dog

[Lazortag]

Originally Posted by Dullah [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I got plenty of logs fighting people with resist gear where I go oom on a single target before they die. You dont know wtf you're talking about as usual.

I thought my post was pretty inoffensive yet I somehow managed to piss you off. Pick up some conflag wands and stop complaining. Or just read Null's post if you want thorough proof that you're wrong.

[hagard]

Originally Posted by Lazortag [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

just read Null's post if you want thorough proof that you're wrong.

He he he

[Dullah]

Originally Posted by hagard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Hardly.

In classic EQ, there was a random factor in nukes. It wasn't static, like I stated earlier.

With good resists (ie 150), you might get a full potential resist (say 50%), but you also might just get the minimum resist for that level of resistance (which was more like max damage minus your present save vs that line of magic). There was a random factor about it. Higher your resist, the higher your base resist, and higher potential you'd have to resist more damage on top of that base.

Here is almost entirely static with 50-100 dmg variance. That variance variable needs to be increased.

In pvp gear, I have enough to cast 5 ice comets.

I've tested rend, and as stated above, because MR is higher, its naturally less efficient in a common scenario. Conflag seems to be the most efficient as people stack CR anticipating ice comet, but then I'm nothing but a druid with no heals...

[Wolfgang]

Originally Posted by Dullah [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hardly.

In classic EQ, there was a random factor in nukes. It wasn't static, like I stated earlier.

With good resists (ie 150), you might get a full potential resist (say 50%), but you also might just get the minimum resist for that level of resistance (which was more like max damage minus your present save vs that line of magic). There was a random factor about it. Higher your resist, the higher your base resist, and higher potential you'd have to resist more damage on top of that base.

Here is almost entirely static with 50-100 dmg variance. That variance variable needs to be increased.

In pvp gear, I have enough to cast 5 ice comets.

I've tested rend, and as stated above, because MR is higher, its naturally less efficient in a common scenario. Conflag seems to be the most efficient as people stack CR anticipating ice comet, but then I'm nothing but a druid with no heals...

lulz sup druid with no heals. you sound mad and you hate your class. sounds like you rolled a wizard to 2 shot everyone and think you are badass. if you aint havin fun dawg roll somethin else. if you really think you are a druid with no heals then you should probably just roll a druid.

[Dullah]

Originally Posted by Lazortag [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I thought my post was pretty inoffensive yet I somehow managed to piss you off. Pick up some conflag wands and stop complaining. Or just read Null's post if you want thorough proof that you're wrong.

Thanks, but no thanks. I won't be relying on clickies to pvp. To me, pvp loses its luster when you have to spend X hours farming expendable items instead of just knowing your class and using the tactics that come with knowing your class and the strengths and weaknesses of other classes.

And if you think because Null said it, its somehow fact, you sir are dumb. No offense to Null intended. There are a handful of people on this server that played more classic EQ than me, and of those in this thread, neither you nor Null are among them.

[Dullah]

Originally Posted by Wolfgang [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lulz sup druid with no heals. you sound mad and you hate your class. sounds like you rolled a wizard to 2 shot everyone and think you are badass. if you aint havin fun dawg roll somethin else. if you really think you are a druid with no heals then you should probably just roll a druid.

Got plenty of toons geared to the tits, just need a reason to play em. dawg