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View Poll Results: If a new p99 server opened with forced raid target rotations would you switch?
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Yes, only if I could transfer my toons 67 30.45%
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Old 06-27-2012, 02:03 PM
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Create a new server for casuals? You have one, blue99. Why are you so interested in yet another blue server anywas? Can't you just buy your toons back from Zamiel or Grim (wtf ever that iskar monks name was you sold to) on eqmac and do the exact same content?
Zamiel doesn't use my account and I have no clue who Grim is. I like Classic EQ not EQ with PoP and Luclin. While some may feel that this environment is classic, I was on a server during that time period with an agreed upon rotation and I think it was great.

Lets try and stay on topic. You have a forum for your dying server. Please use it.

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Old 06-27-2012, 02:06 PM
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Lets pretend that P99 had rotations from the start. There would be no drama, no race for loot and therefore guilds would practically never split up because they would never fail consistently enough to be so unhappy with there current situation to change it. In this rotation of guilds you have:
Inglorious basterds, Transcendance, Divinity, Fish bait, Gothic Circle, Dark Ascension, TMO, and countless other guilds that would crop up because there is no need for guilds to increase past a certain size.

It would take a year to gear out a raid force of 14 and even that process would have been ridiculously boring. A server with forced rotations could not ever live with a reasonable server population, people would get bored and leave.
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Old 06-27-2012, 02:12 PM
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Lets pretend that P99 had rotations from the start. There would be no drama, no race for loot and therefore guilds would practically never split up because they would never fail consistently enough to be so unhappy with there current situation to change it. In this rotation of guilds you have:
Inglorious basterds, Transcendance, Divinity, Fish bait, Gothic Circle, Dark Ascension, TMO, and countless other guilds that would crop up because there is no need for guilds to increase past a certain size.

It would take a year to gear out a raid force of 14 and even that process would have been ridiculously boring. A server with forced rotations could not ever live with a reasonable server population, people would get bored and leave.
I agree that hardcore people would get bored and leave. EQMac, while not classic has a great community and they all share targets. There is no cockblocking and their population was around about what we have when I was there not too long ago. I believe it is still similar.

I know TMO's 2nd and 3rd alts are all dying for Trak BPs and VP gear but it would be amazing if some others had a shot.

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Old 06-27-2012, 02:15 PM
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I agree that hardcore people would get bored and leave. EQMac, while not classic has a great community and they all share targets. There is no cockblocking and their population was around about what we have when I was there not too long ago. I believe it is still similar.

I know TMO's 2nd and 3rd alts are all dying for Trak BPs and VP gear but it would be amazing if some others had a shot.

Asher
EQmac =/= p99.

for starters, EQmac has a ton more content able to keep the many guilds it has on a rotation.

P99 has never had enough content to satisfy the guilds able to take it on.
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Old 06-27-2012, 02:19 PM
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I agree that hardcore people would get bored and leave. EQMac, while not classic has a great community and they all share targets. There is no cockblocking and their population was around about what we have when I was there not too long ago. I believe it is still similar.

I know TMO's 2nd and 3rd alts are all dying for Trak BPs and VP gear but it would be amazing if some others had a shot.

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Old 06-27-2012, 02:22 PM
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EQmac =/= p99.

for starters, EQmac has a ton more content able to keep the many guilds it has on a rotation.

P99 has never had enough content to satisfy the guilds able to take it on.
That is a valid point.

I have a feeling that the community there would still make it work though. They are very friendly and have a completely different mind set. I was a member of the top guild and we often let other guilds clear VT when they wanted, while many of our members still had upgrades there.

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Old 06-27-2012, 02:24 PM
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You guys have a shot... compete~
I cannot dedicate the time to "compete". TMO has won EQ Classic.

Congratulations on clearing raid targets to gear your alts.

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Old 06-27-2012, 02:31 PM
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so blue has a wipe committee too I see
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Old 06-27-2012, 03:07 PM
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If you are not a proponent of the natural order of things as they now exist, there are only two "good" solutions to the bottleneck. Neither one is classic, so heh, there ya go. However, they are either:

1) Instance all major raid encounters.
or
2) Vastly increase the frequency of all major raid encounters.

There are problems associated with both of these solutions, ergo, there is no good solution. The theme here of course is to increase the amount of available raid content. In reality, only Velious will bring some relief. Some.
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Old 06-27-2012, 04:11 PM
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If you are not a proponent of the natural order of things as they now exist, there are only two "good" solutions to the bottleneck. Neither one is classic, so heh, there ya go. However, they are either:

1) Instance all major raid encounters.
or
2) Vastly increase the frequency of all major raid encounters.

There are problems associated with both of these solutions, ergo, there is no good solution. The theme here of course is to increase the amount of available raid content. In reality, only Velious will bring some relief. Some.
I'm a fan of the raid token idea proposed by the sleeper emu. Guilds with superior mobilization still get the lions share of encounters, but smaller guilds get *some* content through tokens. It's still worth competing, and smaller guilds get to experience content, just at a much reduced pace.

Fully agree its not classic.
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