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[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by Archalen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

90 pages later and approximately zero minds were changed.

[leewong]

I dont think that is the purpose of the thread but who knows who is reading this thread and what they are thinking. Sure, the people posting here havent been swayed but they arent fence sitting like some that claim to be "spiritual" and such. I didnt come to theis thread to change a die hard creationists mind. I came here to counter their bullshit.

[Frieza_Prexus]

Originally Posted by Archalen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

90 pages later and approximately zero minds were changed.

I find it interesting that the debate has focused solely on the science for the last while. The majority of Christian resistance to evolution stems from issues with Biblical hermeneutics, not scientific issues.

If you're looking to persuade as opposed to humiliate, I'd suggest you start with something along the lines of Humani generis from Pius XII. I'm not Catholic, but I like a lot of the surrounding literature. (Warning: Southern denominations will often reply to papal literature with buckshot.)

[Estolcles]

Originally Posted by Frieza_Prexus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

(Warning: Southern denominations will often reply to papal literature with buckshot.)

*gets the shotgun out and ready*

[Eliseus]

Look, I can do exactly what leewrong does, but my google searches are more correct then his. When he googles something with debunked, it's 100% accurate, but when his ideas are googled and debunked, it is 100% fabricated results.

Instead of though finding a random website and copy/paste everything, I'll just save the hassle and do a link.

http://www.creationism.org/genesis.htm

Myself didn't even care to read it, but I'm pointing out what leewrong does to validate his points, while everyone else doing the exact same process or giving example to fit his Criteria are completely wrong. Again, like I've said a million times in this thread, wether or not 1 side is write or wrong, the side leewrong is on, whatever that may be, and people who agree, are completely hypocritical.

[leewong]

Originally Posted by Eliseus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Look, I can do exactly what leewrong does, but my google searches are more correct then his. When he googles something with debunked, it's 100% accurate, but when his ideas are googled and debunked, it is 100% fabricated results.

No you arent doing exactly what I have done so let me explain it to you.

1. I hear a creationist claim, "no transitional fossils"
2. I type the word "debunked" after the creationist phrase into google (every claim a creationist makes has a rebuttal)
3. I find tons of articles stating exactly what is wrong with that specific claims creationist are making.
4. I go back and see if creationists have any rebuttal by doing another search. I find nothing to counter the scientists answers.

Here is what you do:

1. Type in google, "evolution debunked" or copy/paste from answersingenisis and talkorigins.com.

That's the difference. You dont care about what the scientist have to say to counter the specific arguments creationist make. You simply swallow everything they say without a thought and then in turn accuse others of doing the same when they arent.

[Eliseus]

Originally Posted by leewong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No you arent doing exactly what I have done so let me explain it to you.

1. I hear a creationist claim, "no transitional fossils"
2. I type the word "debunked" after the creationist phrase into google (every claim a creationist makes has a rebuttal)
3. I find tons of articles stating exactly what is wrong with that specific claims creationist are making.
4. I go back and see if creationists have any rebuttal by doing another search. I find nothing to counter the scientists answers.

Here is what you do:

1. Type in google, "evolution debunked" or copy/paste from answersingenisis and talkorigins.com.

That's the difference. You dont care about what the scientist have to say to counter the specific arguments creationist make. You simply swallow everything they say without a thought and then in turn accuse others of doing the same when they arent.

Anyone with an amount of intelligence, or common sense, knows you are full of shit. Sorry bud.

[leewong]

Originally Posted by Eliseus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Anyone with an amount of intelligence, or common sense, knows you are full of shit. Sorry bud.

So are you saying I dont do this? Interesting...

[Eliseus]

There is nothing wrong being full of shit. I still think you are a cool guy for trying though. I just think you are a 1-sided moron at the same time that disagree with anyone that would doubt your point of view, not matter the cause. For example, google debunked after everything you say, and it is no longer relevant, google debunked after everything I say, and it is now relevant. Anyone who was around for those pages, or has read those pages knows it. Stop trying to hide from it.

[leewong]

Originally Posted by Eliseus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is nothing wrong being full of shit. I still think you are a cool guy for trying though. I just think you are a 1-sided moron at the same time that disagree with anyone that would doubt your point of view, not matter the cause. For example, google debunked after everything you say, and it is no longer relevant, google debunked after everything I say, and it is now relevant. Anyone who was around for those pages, or has read those pages knows it. Stop trying to hide from it.

I explained what I wanted from you a few times now. If you cant read a simple paragraph and digest it...no skin off my back but you come off looking like a complete moron.