My proposal for Raiding guilds and GMs of P1999

[Alawen Everywhere]

Is he talking about my post? Which part is personal? I don't even know who he is.

[hyzon]

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[astarothel]

Munchkin is fking amazing btw.

[Gwence]

I would probably agree we are on somewhat of an unofficial rotation, but even if we made it official we would still probably have to camp to block out the other guilds, probably not to the extent we do now but I dont think the camping would stop.

But seeing as how we went 3 to 1 on the big four last week (including 2 draco kills), I'd rather continue fighting.

And stop acting like maestro is a big deal we stopped caring about that mob over a month ago.

[G13]

Originally Posted by Alawen Everywhere [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm calling bullshit on you, sir. A little over a week ago, I sat next to DA chatting about things from live while we all waited on draco. Things are only testy now because I disagree with your little carebear plan. I congratulated you on your CT kill and complimented Raren on his robe when I ran into him today in NFP.

I've personally witnessed your attempts at trying to chip away at a rival guild's morale. Some examples include in Fear:

"Why are you even trying? You aren't going to kill the mob. You suck, ect."

"You can't compete against IB. Why are you bothering? We are better than you ect."

Other examples include Hasbinbad and Wonton taunting other guilds as they fail boss encounters. "You feel as if you are about to fail" ect. That wasn't Divinity doing it. Not Trans. Not DA. It was IB.

If you want to make claims about what I've done, you better back them up with screen shots. I gave you a little grief yesterday after you trained me, but before that things were always friendly between DA and I. I wasn't around for the big conflicts between Transcendence and IB, so there's no bad blood there. I've had no significant issues with Divinity, Remedy, Gothic Circle or any of the up and coming guilds and in this very thread I have been in agreement with the group saying there are more than four guilds to be considered for a rotation.

You are the type of player that has an issue with another guild threatening your ability to kill all the mobs on the server. That guild happens to be DA at the moment. If it wasn't DA, it would be someone else.

DA picked this fight with IB. You wanted your share of the raid mobs. Now you have them and you want to reduce the amount of work you do for them. For some reason, you think you get to talk a lot of shit about IB and nothing will come back at you.

On the contrary, IB picked a fight with the server a long time ago before DA was even formed. You made your intentions clear, staked your claims, and made it known how extreme competition would be for even a boss mob you didn't want or need. I have to take issue with your misconception that camping a boss mob with a force of 15 is "less work". It isn't. You should know how much work camping actually is, since you've been the main IB tracker now for months. So now entire guilds are doing what you were doing by yourself and you want to call that less work?

And I've already stated in other threads. Camping out in WC, or binding in a boss zone, or WC or whatever for a quick port is not "more work" than someone already sitting in the zone. Each guild still needs to do the exact same thing. Clear/buff/kill boss in 30 minutes. One guild just feels they are more skilled if they don't IN the zone and WC instead or something. Strategically that's piss poor planning and your leadership knows it which is your guild is sitting in SoL B atm.

That's just too bad, son. If your strategy is unsustainable, you'll just have to come up with a new strategy. If not, your guild will go the way of things like the dodo bird. That's life. Life's not about fair. Life's about the strong eating the weak. That's why your get in line and take your turn plan is so unattractive to some of us. We're strong and we want MORE.

Nobody said the strategy was unsustainable. As long as people are willing to put in the work, the strategy is sustainable. You don't see even see the irony within your own post. Your "strategy" of relying upon druids to do your camping for you has become obsolete. You are now being forced to adapt or go the way of the dodo bird. Any raiding situation someone devises is going to have the same issues. Guilds devising the most efficient way possible to guarantee themselves as many boss mobs as possible.

[Aadill]

Originally Posted by Gwence [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And stop acting like maestro is a big deal we stopped caring about that mob over a month ago.

Didn't want that seven stringed loot, anyway

Oh man I'm clever.

[G13]

Originally Posted by Gwence [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would probably agree we are on somewhat of an unofficial rotation, but even if we made it official we would still probably have to camp to block out the other guilds, probably not to the extent we do now but I dont think the camping would stop.

But seeing as how we went 3 to 1 on the big four last week (including 2 draco kills), I'd rather continue fighting.

And stop acting like maestro is a big deal we stopped caring about that mob over a month ago.

The thing is, whoever focuses on Vox is automatically at a disadvantage. If you decide you want Vox, you are taking a gamble with the variance. You are unable to split your forces as effectively ect. Vox requires a much larger force than any other boss in the game due to her complete heal and mana.

You can see the evidence of that this week. DA is working in its second draco. They killed Inny. CT. Maestro. They can potentially get even another draco before Naggy even spawns. You guys are in a rotation of your own making already, you just haven't realized it.

[Alawen Everywhere]

Originally Posted by G13 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've personally witnessed your attempts at trying to chip away at a rival guild's morale. Some examples include in Fear:

"Why are you even trying? You aren't going to kill the mob. You suck, ect."

"You can't compete against IB. Why are you bothering? We are better than you ect."

Other examples include Hasbinbad and Wonton taunting other guilds as they fail boss encounters. "You feel as if you are about to fail" ect. That wasn't Divinity doing it. Not Trans. Not DA. It was IB.




You are the type of player that has an issue with another guild threatening your ability to kill all the mobs on the server. That guild happens to be DA at the moment. If it wasn't DA, it would be someone else.



On the contrary, IB picked a fight with the server a long time ago before DA was even formed. You made your intentions clear, staked your claims, and made it known how extreme competition would be for even a boss mob you didn't want or need. I have to take issue with your misconception that camping a boss mob with a force of 15 is "less work". It isn't. You should know how much work camping actually is, since you've been the main IB tracker now for months. So now entire guilds are doing what you were doing by yourself and you want to call that less work?

And I've already stated in other threads. Camping out in WC, or binding in a boss zone, or WC or whatever for a quick port is not "more work" than someone already sitting in the zone. Each guild still needs to do the exact same thing. Clear/buff/kill boss in 30 minutes. One guild just feels they are more skilled if they don't IN the zone and WC instead or something. Strategically that's piss poor planning and your leadership knows it which is your guild is sitting in SoL B atm.



Nobody said the strategy was unsustainable. As long as people are willing to put in the work, the strategy is sustainable. You don't see even see the irony within your own post. Your "strategy" of relying upon druids to do your camping for you has become obsolete. You are now being forced to adapt or go the way of the dodo bird. Any raiding situation someone devises is going to have the same issues. Guilds devising the most efficient way possible to guarantee themselves as many boss mobs as possible.

Hi, my name is Alawen. My alts are Daire and Qwin. I don't play Wonton, I don't play Hasbinbad. Alawen, Daire, Qwin.

None of the things you're claiming I said even sound anything like me. I said one thing along the lines of what you're claiming. I asked why you split dps between multiple mobs and whether it was because the hit box wasn't big enough for all of you, implying a zerg when you were clearing fear with 54 people. I don't say shit like you're going to fail. How the fuck are you going to fail any of these encounters? When I'm watching Fear with you, I'm just waiting for the kill time.

As I've said many times, I like competition. If it's not obvious, I enjoy this drama. If we didn't have this rivalry with DA, I'd be sitting here watching the stock market or reading a book and pressing [ Tracking ] when I turn the page.

I really just wish some of you would demonstrate something resembling a sense of humor instead of acting like a guy with a little dick. Even your attacks are defensive, it's pathetic. While I'm wishing, could someone with some talent for drawing or photoshop mashups step up? Original graphics are a lot funnier than links to eBaum's World.

Also, the t comes before the c in et cetera.

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We hit page 50. I think you guys deserve an Hacksaw Jim Duggan picture.

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[rioisk]

Originally Posted by Phallax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Back in true classic, most didnt have cable to stay online and camp like this 24/7. Im sure if majority(if not all) of the population had cable like we do these days, Im sure this would have been seen more, in all honesty.

The dominate guilds prevailed because they just happened to be on in force when stuff spawned and mobilized to it, usually knowing when it would spawn. Also most servers didnt have as high of volume of guilds able/willing to raid. Most came to p99 to re-live the classic raiding experience, thus we see more raiders available on 1 server compared to then.

^^this