Best 4 person all caster/priest group

[Elizondo]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It is indeed tragic. I can back up my arguments with evidence for two years. In two years the pro Cleric side still can't provide evidence to suport their claims, and they have more people. You'd think they would be able to provide something over this timescale.

Nothing you've posted trying to back up your claims is compelling

The truth is self evident

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Elizondo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nothing you've posted trying to back up your claims is compelling

The truth is self evident

This is the best the pro Cleric side can do sadly. Two years of this.

[Elizondo]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is the best the pro Cleric side can do sadly. Two years of this.

2 years in and literally nobody agrees with you

Maybe by 2026 you'll win a few over but I doubt it

[Vexenu]

DSM cannot refute the power of Cleric Lull/DA and so conveniently ignores it entirely.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

DSM cannot refute the power of Cleric Lull/DA and so conveniently ignores it entirely.

I understand lull and DA. 2x Enchanters have lull too, and you haven't shown why you think DA usage is better than what a Shaman does. You can also buy Earring of the Frozen Skull for DA. Racharges are a gold.

Originally Posted by Elizondo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

2 years in and literally nobody agrees with you.

You can't prove this, and OP picked a Shaman. No cleric. This is the best you can do. Lie and be silly.

[Vexenu]

Yeah just buy a 100k earring at level 60 to replace the spell the Cleric buys for 4 copper at level 1. Then leave your dungeon camp and recharge it after every use! It's totally the same thing!

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah just buy a 100k earring at level 60 to replace the spell the Cleric buys for 4 copper at level 1. Then leave your dungeon camp and recharge it after every use! It's totally the same thing!

Explain the scenarios in which a level 30 Cleric is using DA to just catapult this group to 60 way faster than a Shaman.

Explain the camps that would drastically benefit from casted DA over a Shaman with Earring. You can also swap an Enchanter for a Necro. They have DA too.

Also remember that a 3x Enchanter group would need to spend around 100k total for 3x copies of their spells. If they can get 100k once, they can do it again.

[Elizondo]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can't prove this, and OP picked a Shaman. No cleric. This is the best you can do. Lie and be silly.

OP stated they didn't pick the optimal setup

Burden of proof is on you to provide evidence you've changed hearts and minds

Good Luck

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Elizondo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

OP stated they didn't pick the optimal setup

Burden of proof is on you to provide evidence you've changed hearts and minds

Good Luck

Clearly the argument against Shaman was less persuasive.

Are you suggesting OP just randomly picked Shaman, without any influence from this thread?

[Elizondo]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Clearly the argument against Shaman was less persuasive.

Are you suggesting OP just randomly picked Shaman, without any influence from this thread?

Pretty sure OP didn't even pick shaman but necro lawl

Thank you for all the feedback. I think everyone has a lot of great ideas/thoughts on this subject. We went with shaman, enchanter and 2 necros. I'm the one playing the extra necro. I could have gone enchanter or mage, but with kids/wife it's nice to just feign death and afk at a moments notice. But I do agree in theory that possibly either of those classes offered a bit more than an extra necro.