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Old 08-15-2013, 12:24 PM
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If they don't want to alter the training rule then how about an exception? Do not allow trains in VP unless you have an opposing raid force outside ready to zone in to make your move. This would force them to go for VP mobs first on repop days if another guild is making a move, instead of hitting all the outside bosses and train/delaying the raid in VP so they can clean it up later. Would open up more of the other spawns to other guilds and if they decide to go for outside mobs first, would give other guilds a shot at a few VP bosses.

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This would also prevent grief training when Velious comes out and VP does open up. New guilds will want to try VP and people who are assholes/bored has free pass to train them. That shouldn't be allowed.
It's been happening for the entirety of VP so far.
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Old 08-15-2013, 12:36 PM
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It's been happening for the entirety of VP so far.
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Old 08-15-2013, 01:09 PM
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If they don't want to alter the training rule then how about an exception? Do not allow trains in VP unless you have an opposing raid force outside ready to zone in to make your move. This would force them to go for VP mobs first on repop days if another guild is making a move, instead of hitting all the outside bosses and train/delaying the raid in VP so they can clean it up later. Would open up more of the other spawns to other guilds and if they decide to go for outside mobs first, would give other guilds a shot at a few VP bosses.

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This would also prevent grief training when Velious comes out and VP does open up. New guilds will want to try VP and people who are assholes/bored has free pass to train them. That shouldn't be allowed.
This was mainly my motivation behind this thread. I don't plan on going to VP until training isn't allowed there. I guess when TMO leaves the other guilds will have to come up with an agreement.
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Old 08-15-2013, 01:48 PM
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Is that what I said? You must be slow.
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Old 08-15-2013, 02:27 PM
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Is that what I said? You must be slow.
Basically you did, yes.
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Old 08-16-2013, 06:05 AM
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If this was done to slow down progression so the board isn't filled with whines for more content, then why not enable PvP in VP?
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Old 08-16-2013, 06:53 AM
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When it comes to raiding on this server, don't expect the classic experience. And it's pretty much obvious whatever happened on Live isn't really the guideline here. Better lobby the head staff about your views.
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Old 08-16-2013, 08:06 PM
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Im just trying to consider alternatives to the current shitty situation regarding VP, because obviously the server staff and current guild controlling VP love things the way they are. So we'll just have to wait until TMO leaves and then we can make it a better place to raid. Although, I assume if training is allowed by GM's then the problem will still remain until that is addressed.

Man, for a server that is supposed to emulate live EQ...Variance and Training in VP? Not classic. Oh well, I guess the 250+ people who hate the fact that training is allowed in VP will have to wait till velious. Just hope the 1k+ population numbers we are hitting nowadays sticks it out until then, if they do...I seriously see 2000+ players online during velious release. If not, then its just another wave of players who came, saw p99 for what it was, and left for greener pastures.


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Old 08-17-2013, 05:30 AM
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380 votes. Damn! I was hoping to hit 100 when I made this post. I'm really kind of shocked how many p99ers wish VP had a classic ruleset yet there seems to be very little recourse for these players other than joining in on the training derpfests or just not raid VP until its fixed.

Just really hope this sanctioned training is done away with before velious is released. Would be a shame for hundreds of players to miss out on VP because of trains. I'm just glad I got to see it a few times and kill a dragon there though.
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Old 08-17-2013, 11:14 AM
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