OFFICIAL PROPOSAL from FE/TMO

[Nlaar]

Originally Posted by Mezzmur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm telling you said that all planes are off limits in a raid suspension period. They said this last night in sirkens stream if we hit the Jan2 deadline.

They also said they will very likely not repop rotted corpses due to suspensions. Both questions asked explicitly last night.

Again, it would be great if these types of statements & decisions were posted on the forums in an official thread instead of hearing second hand about a stream conversation. Ridiculous.

[Mezzmur]

Originally Posted by Nlaar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Again, it would be great if these types of statements & decisions were posted on the forums in an official thread instead of hearing second hand about a stream conversation. Ridiculous.

Hopefully it's not necessary. I'm sure if it's drawn out and comes to it, they will.

[Lostprophets]

Originally Posted by Versus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Go play WoW if you want your rotational instanced bullshit.

Why don't you go play red and compete for mobs in PVP for real competition. I'm sure Nihilum will welcome your competitiveness with open arms. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Fazlazen]

Originally Posted by Lostprophets [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why don't you go play red and compete for mobs in PVP for real competition. I'm sure Nihilum will welcome your competitiveness with open arms. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

GUYS LOSPROFET NEEDS MORE LEWTS FOR HIS ALTS. LEAVE HIS SERVER!!

[toosweet]

P1999- Where Everyone gets a trophy!

[sedrie.bellamie]

Originally Posted by toosweet [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

P1999- Where Everyone gets a trophy!

can Roegen just show up once a week and give everyone their choice of a DE mask, cof, or free epic MQ?

[Hitpoint]

I"ll be honest. It looks like Taken and BDA and whoever else are simply trying to squeeze more out of this situation because the GMs gave you the power to do so. Your right, raid suspension hurts the big guilds more. And yes, GMs want a unanimous agreement from all guilds.

Let's imagine that we weren't threatened with a raid suspension and this current proposal was posted. People would go fucking INSANE for it. Big guilds said they are willing to give up tons of targets every month, including 1/4th of the ones they want the most. Guilds that were previously getting nothing, can get multiple targets weekly. They can set up a rotation between themselves if they don't want to do any work. That's left up to them. And still allowed to compete with the top guilds if they choose to. Nothing even close to this has ever been on the table. It would be accepted without a second thought, there would be no holding out for MORE. Want some inside info? This agreement was drafted and posted on our boards for review a day before Sirken's threat. Our officers didn't come up with this because they had the threat of a suspension looming. They actually wanted to make the raid scene better. And you all shit on it like this, just because you can. Imo threatening the server was a mistake, and now this is all so messy and hateful when it doesn't need to be.

[DrKvothe]

Originally Posted by Hitpoint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I"ll be honest. It looks like Taken and BDA and whoever else are simply trying to squeeze more out of this situation because the GMs gave you the power to do so. Your right, raid suspension hurts the big guilds more. And yes, GMs want a unanimous agreement from all guilds.

Let's imagine that we weren't threatened with a raid suspension and this current proposal was posted. People would go fucking INSANE for it. Big guilds said they are willing to give up tons of targets every month, including 1/4th of the ones they want the most. Guilds that were previously getting nothing, can get multiple targets weekly. They can set up a rotation between themselves if they don't want to do any work. That's left up to them. And still allowed to compete with the top guilds if they choose to. Nothing even close to this has ever been on the table. It would be accepted without a second thought, there would be no holding out for MORE. Want some inside info? This agreement was drafted and posted on our boards for review a day before Sirken's threat. Our officers didn't come up with this because they had the threat of a suspension looming. They actually wanted to make the raid scene better. And you all shit on it like this, just because you can.

I've got an idea. TMO perma-banned from all non-VP content. If they want an epic for a 4th alt, they can buy it from A-Team.

[Lammy]

Originally Posted by DrKvothe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've got an idea. TMO perma-banned from all non-VP content. If they want an epic for a 4th alt, they can buy it from A-Team.

Winga, when you first started in these negotiation threads I thought perhaps you were a rational, free thinker. Now i'm just convinced that you're either A. a misinformed lemming or B. a retard.

TMO has plenty of raiding mains that still need their epics, as well as gear from open world raid mobs. That is first hand FACT, not assumption or hearsay.

[DrKvothe]

Originally Posted by Lammy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Winga, when you first started in these negotiation threads I thought perhaps you were a rational, free thinker. Now i'm just convinced that you're either A. a misinformed lemming or B. a retard.

TMO has plenty of raiding mains that still need their epics, as well as gear from open world raid mobs. That is first hand FACT, not assumption or hearsay.

Plenty? What's the waiting list like? Why are you selling epics and epic pieces for most classes? How can you have a similar number of players as each of FE, Taken, BDA, etc., have gotten near exclusive rights to epic drops for 2 years, and still act like you desperately need raid loot? If you've got 2 mains per class that need epic drops and other guilds have 10 mains per class that need epic drops, even if your guild is getting drops at the same rate as the other guild, an individual in your guild is getting it 5x faster.