Best solo melee class? - Page 51

Cecily · #**501** 10-03-2025, 04:05 PM

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That is a great deal for someone like yourself when you are running out of mana by casting 10 mana spells. You spend zero mana on the initial agro transfer before the mob reaches you, and you may not need to cast as many flame licks.

Remember when I was like it takes me 84 mins to run OOM with flame lick? As others mentioned earlier, it's attrition and more mana objectively increases the length of time that attrition can continue. Running out of mana is ok. Using suboptimal clickies in fear of a break over an hour away is not good advice. Thank you.

Danth · #**502** 10-03-2025, 04:05 PM

Case in point of the relative difference between classes: Shamwowi linked an ice burrower video. Now replace the shadowknight with a ranger. Ranger doesn't have a pet to care about, so if he's solo'ing he doesn't care at all about aggro. He lands 1 ensnare, that lasts a long flippin time so he only has to re-apply it a relative handful of times through a fight. Otherwise it's move-shoot-move-shoot. His mana bar's fine, gloves or no gloves. Totally different tactics, and the snare gloves which are handy for the shadowknight in that situation, collect dust in the ranger's bag.

Kiting for someone else? Ranger would probably rather flame lick--shoot. Still a lot of aggro, and more damage too. Least I would in his place. Mana bar will gradually go down but it'll outlast the burrower.

More likely to use the things in a chain-pulling exp group with no mana regen where the ranger happens to be the tank. Flame lick takes awhile to run you out, but it eventually will, and some exp groups will complain even at one stoppage per hour. Even then it's not THAT likely, kind of a contrived scenario that most ranger players will probably never experience, so I don't really disagree with the folks dismissing the snare click as fluff. It's there, use it if you need it, but you probably won't need it on that class and bag space isn't endless. Frankly I don't use the things all that often on my shadowknight.

DeathsSilkyMist · #**503** 10-03-2025, 04:24 PM

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Remember when I was like it takes me 84 mins to run OOM with flame lick? As others mentioned earlier, it's attrition and more mana objectively increases the length of time that attrition can continue. Running out of mana is ok. Using suboptimal clickies in fear of a break over an hour away is not good advice. Thank you.

You forget the basic concept that spending zero mana means you have more mana for emergencies. If you are down to 1200 mana from slow attrition, the Ranger who spent zero mana and has a 1600 max mana pool will have more mana available than you do.

My SK uses clickies all the time and doesn't have mana issues in groups.

Cecily · #**504** 10-03-2025, 04:29 PM

No. I didn't forget that. I choose to accept that my mana will run out eventually as a tradeoff of having a higher quality of life during my active playtime. It's actually not a problem for me.

Naethyn · #**505** 10-03-2025, 04:30 PM

I wear https://wiki.project1999.com/Ring_of_Relkententinar because it’s ranger only not because of stats.

Cecily · #**506** 10-03-2025, 04:33 PM

Sometimes I equip my Earthcaller and Wuoshi Shield and walk around pretending I'm female Link. Best use case for that clicky I've found.

Goregasmic · #**507** 10-03-2025, 04:34 PM

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I don't think anybody said to permanentally wear them. On my SK I just swap out my BE Gloves once I am done clicking. It's not hard to do.

Maybe it is just me but at that point I'd just throw on an earring of woven bark and leave it there if I'm gonna use it a lot... and just eat the extra 0,5 cast time.

DeathsSilkyMist · #**508** 10-03-2025, 04:34 PM

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No. I didn't forget that. I choose to accept that my mana will run out eventually as a tradeoff of having a higher quality of life during my active playtime. It's actually not a problem for me.

Your story just doesn't add up. On the one hand you claim that you need the max mana for an 86 minute session, while also suggesting a break will occur well before 86 minutes. This means you don't need 86 minutes of max mana, you can do with less.

Cecily · #**509** 10-03-2025, 04:37 PM

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Your story just doesn't add up. On the one hand you claim that you need the max mana for an 86 minute session, while also suggesting a break will occur well before 86 minutes. This means you don't need 86 minutes of max mana, you can do with less.

Literally unreadable.

DeathsSilkyMist · #**510** 10-03-2025, 04:43 PM

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Literally unreadable.

Clearly you cannot rebut my argument.

You are suggesting 86 minutes of mana is preferable to 70 minutes of mana. But you also suggest the group will take a break instead of playing for 86 minutes straight.

You are going to break before you run out of mana, even with a lower mana pool.