Best 4 person all caster/priest group

[Toxigen]

DSM is too busy root rotting 5 adds and managing his wolf pet to help a stupid enchanter.

Silly Troxx, maybe if you knew how to shaman at DSM's level you'd understand.

Obviously he'll just log into his pocket cleric after and rez.

[Troxx]

So DSM … you are refusing to answer a very simple and specific question. Does this constitute a concession?

I have told you what I think you should do and what I would do with my shaman.

In not answering or providing an alternative I assume this is what you also would do. If this is the case and you are just going to blast heal and trust the enchanters skill to recover … remember that the cleric will blast heal much better than you and that the enchanter will have more hp buffer with the cleric.

But … the cleric would just stun it all and top off the enchanter who would have it all back under control before the stun wore off.

If you have some top sekrit other strategy, please educate me.

[Trexller]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The problem with idiots playing shamans is that the shaman class is so incredibly overpowered that when they manage to do a thing successfully … they are prone to jumping to the conclusion that they are super great at playing EQ.

I got real skillz against green mobs

My turgurs never gets resisted and my root never breaks early

[Troxx]

Of all the classes to play, shaman is one of the easiest to do so at a level of mediocrity. It’s a busy class, but not a difficult one to play or be effective with. Especially once you have torpor.

I’m much more impressed by someone who knows how to play some of the other classes effectively… notably bard, necro, and enchanter. The really good ones really stand apart from those that just attain mediocrity.

Honorable mention to clerics and paladins who perform exceptionally well. A well played cleric in particular (one who does more than sit/stand/heal/sit when the situation calls for) it is awesome.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So DSM … you are refusing to answer a very simple and specific question. Does this constitute a concession?

I have told you what I think you should do and what I would do with my shaman.

So to be clear, you are saying this is your answer?

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Like it or not, shamans simply have far fewer and less potent tools to handle “oh shit” moments. You’re basically stuck spamming chloroblast for mediocre healing.

I'll tell you what I think you should do: heal the enchanter, clinch your pussy lips and pray the heals cover enough of the gap for the enchanter to manage an AOE to get shit under control.

Your strategy is just spam healing and nothing else?

Once we get confirmation, I'll answer your question. You do not get to keep dodging questions by simply asking another question.

[Vivitron]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your ench partner is at 100% health. Your enchanter has a hasted, quadding high dps pet and charm breaks. The mob summons (or doesn’t summon but root broke cause this is a “pickle”). The enchanter is now being wailed on by the pet and the mob.

That is a trick question that highlights one benefit of the shaman: the target isn't attacking the enchanter, it's attacking the shaman. The shaman put in slow aggro right away. The cleric can put in aggro and provide this same benefit, but instead of happening by default it requires some discipline and they probably only bother against a few hard hitting unstunnable targets.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Vivitron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That is a trick question that highlights one benefit of the shaman: the target isn't attacking the enchanter, it's attacking the shaman. The shaman put in slow aggro right away. The cleric can put in aggro and provide this same benefit, but instead of happening by default it requires some discipline and they probably only bother against a few hard hitting unstunnable targets.

This is correct. AoE slow works wonders too if multiple mobs come in. Just AoE slow and you have agro most of the time for at least the two adds, maybe the charmed pet too.

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by Vivitron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That is a trick question that highlights one benefit of the shaman: the target isn't attacking the enchanter, it's attacking the shaman. The shaman put in slow aggro right away. The cleric can put in aggro and provide this same benefit, but instead of happening by default it requires some discipline and they probably only bother against a few hard hitting unstunnable targets.

And the scenario where the enchanter has a botched pull yet charm breaks while they are incomming? AoE slow takes 5 seconds to cast. You’re looking at a potentially dead enchanter in 5 seconds. When one of them is buffed to the teeth and quaffing.

For the other where the “mob” is hitting the shaman but the pet broke and is beating on the enchanter … health dropping? Ideally the enchanter can quickly lock it down but be it an interrupted cast or a resisted enchanter stun - the charmer can drop fast.

“Pickle” moments happen. If you haven’t ever seen one … you just haven’t played long enough.


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Answer the question directly DSM.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And the scenario where the enchanter has a botched pull yet charm breaks while they are incomming? AoE slow takes 5 seconds to cast. You’re looking at a potentially dead enchanter in 5 seconds. When one of them is buffed to the teeth and quaffing.

For the other where the “mob” is hitting the shaman but the pet broke and is beating on the enchanter … health dropping? Ideally the enchanter can quickly lock it down but be it an interrupted cast or a resisted enchanter stun - the charmer can drop fast.

“Pickle” moments happen. If you haven’t ever seen one … you just haven’t played long enough.


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Answer the question directly DSM.

You still haven't confirmed your answer. You are saying you would simply heal and nothing else? You have no insight into other strategies?

Once you confirm, I'll answer.

[Trexller]

Monday Morning Quarterback?

or Armchair General?