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Old 07-11-2024, 10:30 PM
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Surely you cannot claim you've never called someone a troll just because they disagreed with you in a respectful, substantive manner?
I have never done so, and you can check my post history. I call people trolls when they troll. It's really that simple. If you can show me a post where I called someone a troll, I can find the trolling that caused it. If you want to not be called a troll, do not troll.
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Old 07-11-2024, 10:36 PM
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Trolling is the act of intentionally stirring the pot to get a reaction while having no actual interest in the topic at hand.

That’s a very different thing from just laughing at and insulting you for being retarded.
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Old 07-11-2024, 10:38 PM
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You're doubling down? You've never once called someone a troll in an unwarranted fashion? Perhaps to someone who disagreed in a substantive and friendly manner?
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Old 07-11-2024, 10:39 PM
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Trolling is the act of intentionally stirring the pot to get a reaction while having no actual interest in the topic at hand
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Old 07-11-2024, 10:40 PM
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Trolling is the act of intentionally stirring the pot to get a reaction while having no actual interest in the topic at hand.

That’s a very different thing from just laughing at and insulting you for being retarded.
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Trolling is when someone posts or comments online to ‘bait’ people, which means deliberately provoking an argument or emotional reaction. In some cases they say things they don’t even believe, just to cause drama.
It's amusing when an admitted troll tries to change the definition of trolling to try and not seem like a troll. You've done all these things many times in this thread. Insulting someone when you lost an argument to stir an emotional reaction is trolling. Sadly you do not get the emotional reaction, as it is trivial to rebut your nonsense. Insulting autistic people is not a good look for you either.

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You're doubling down? You've never once called someone a troll in an unwarranted fashion? Perhaps to someone who disagreed in a substantive and friendly manner?
Provide an example, and I'll show you the context. You are free to claim it wasn't trolling of course. Troxx is trying to change the definition of trolling right now. The readers can decide how honest you are.
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Old 07-11-2024, 10:47 PM
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They are only trolling because you are not making a strong cogent point

You DO have a point, and you aren't 100% wrong, they can't be expected to internalize it all, your post format is dissertation.

Give us the distilled concise breakdown
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Old 07-11-2024, 10:48 PM
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Old 07-11-2024, 10:49 PM
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They are only trolling because you are not making a strong cogent point

You DO have a point, and you aren't 100% wrong, they can't be expected to internalize it all, your post format is dissertation.

Give us the distilled concise breakdown
If I make my argument concise, they will take it out of context and twist it. If I make my post more detailed, they don't read it. It is not my problem that they are unable to argue in good faith, and must resort to trolling.

If they stopped trolling and read my posts without simply trying to find a gotcha, a normal discussion would be possible.
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Old 07-11-2024, 10:50 PM
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Provide an example, and I'll show you the context. You are free to claim it wasn't trolling of course. Troxx is trying to change the definition of trolling right now. The readers can decide how honest you are.
Let's look at this thread: https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...62#post3634462. Jimajam starts with some pointed but gentle disagreement:

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statistics can prove anything - I think you are so focused on statistics you are overlooking practical reality.

Again, disagreed. What matters is how characters end up geared, not statistics. Statistics may guide creation and gearing decisions but if those decisions don’t meet their objectives then the statistics must have overlooked some assumptions.

Rip’s Magelo is very top end. Yours is decent. Yet both have issues capping core tank stats with/without buffs.

I thought you said having high str gave the ability to focus on +int gear though? Maybe you need to follow your own advice more aggressively if you really value int over str/sta?
Then he gives an objectively fair assessment on the disparity between your perspective and mine:
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DSM values levelling as an ordeal to go through that unlocks end game. Others view the end game just being a postgame/'winners room' for people that exhausted/completed the real game content (levelling up).

IMO this is why he values levelling stats much lower than endgame bis stats.
Then he responds to DSM again, ending his post with:
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Confirmed mad treble post!
DSM starts his response by accusing Jimjam of misreading:

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You completely misread my post in it's entirety.
And ends by somehow misinterpreting this clearly self-deprecating joke as an insult.
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I am not mad at all. I am simply pointing out that people continue to post insults and baseless opinions. It is honestly sad that people care so much about trying to be right, that they are willing to mislead new players.
Jimjam, pleasantly & politely, points out that it was self-deprecating:

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Please stop trolling threads that are designed to help new players. Why do you need to be so destructive and unhelpful?
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Wow. I've not insulted you once, yet you accuse me of trolling, being destructive and unhelpful?
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Old 07-11-2024, 10:59 PM
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I’ll say it again the intent behind trolling is to simply cause a fuss. The troll does not have any interest in the subject at hand other than to get people worked up. No other goal exists other than the reactionary response of others (typically otherS plural).

That is a very different thing than stepping back and laughing at an idiot for being an idiot (and pointing it out).

I’m not trolling you DSM. I was actually interested in this discussion. If you read from the start you will see that I was summoned here BY NAME because people know I parse a ton and have a level 60 mage.

So no, not trolling. There isn’t any pleasure in it. Your autistic behavior and responses are far too PREDICTABLE and ultimately boil down to calling people trolls and “thanking” them for “conceding” when no concession was given.

If you’re tired of being laughed at, perhaps try being less … you?

You are the laughing stock of this community.
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