OFFICIAL PROPOSAL from FE/TMO

[Eloian]

Originally Posted by Troubled [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dictating what guilds are allowed to be at the meeting. Not a good start.

I'm sure many many guilds could have entered the raid scene long ago but seeing the toxic pool we swim in they rather not get dirty, so they waited for Velious...and waited..and waited, frustration grows. Now the raid scene is being reshaped and all eyes are on it. Of course those guilds want a say. They deserve a say as much as anyone.

Eloian Bushlover (To keep your bushes clean don't let riffraff near it)
57 Ranger <BDA>

[sanluen]

Originally Posted by Tyym [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We are getting requests from guilds I have never heard of to attend the discussion tonight. May I suggest the smaller guilds voice their concerns to some of the higher up Cat B guilds like BDA, Divinity and Taken. Tonight's forum will be restricting representatives to 2 players from each guild. With that in mind, we will still be having 10 -12 people on our vent likely all talking at once. We know the concerns and we are doing our best to come to some sort of amiable solution that benefits everyone. However if you haven't killed a Dragon or God in the past 6 months, then please let your proxy be conveyed by one of the aforementioned guilds.

Morphius
Forceful Entry

So only 6 guilds are allowed to talk about the future of the server? Do "Cat B" guilds get an equal vote? Seems to be against the entire idea of coming together as a server to make changes to make the future better for everyone.

[JayN]

<ninja turtles> will be there, we expect our unfairshare as well....

[Magicant]

The only real solution to the raid scene is to limit the number of players that can engage a raid boss. 25 people.

or

Instances.

[Hitpoint]

Yendor I think that this is the beginning of those guilds actually competing with TMO more. Yes tmo is suspended now, but they will only be weaker when they get off suspension. They definitely haven't gained in strength. And if guilds are willing to compete with us then they should be confident competing with new tmo as well.

Now I don't have much to compare with, because of the two hour hands off rule, but there are three instances which I think show that these guilds can and should compete even with TMO back. First is Taken killing VS. FTE on VS is no different if IB/FE is allowed to engage, or if TMO is in the picture. If Taken got VS while BDA was there, then they can get it while anyone is there. At least they don't have any more chance than we do. It's very coinflippy. Same thing with Sev, FTE coinflip which bda could have had. You beat us to Tal, which is a mob that we consistently beat TMO to. There is zero reason why you guys shouldn't continue, and improve. And even if you don't think so, in my opinion we'll be seeing a lot more of it. Also, I think getting these mobs during the free weeks will only motivate and serve as practice for racing.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Hitpoint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yendor I think that this is the beginning of those guilds actually competing with TMO more. Yes tmo is suspended now, but they will only be weaker when they get off suspension. They definitely haven't gained in strength. And if guilds are willing to compete with us then they should be confident competing with new tmo as well.

Lol don't delude yourself [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Hitpoint]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol don't delude yourself [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Come on. You know they've always been able to get FTE on VS and other things. I'm actually not trying to trash talk TMO at all here, but lets be realistic, a two week suspension does not strengthen a raid guild like tmo. We took a noticeable hit from our 5 day one, or however long it was.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Hitpoint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

a two week suspension does not strengthen a raid guild like tmo.

It intensifies their resolve to come back and stick it to everyone else. Plus, it was over the holidays when most people would have been busy anyway. Don't underestimate your primary opponent, LOL.

[Lammy]

Originally Posted by Hitpoint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Come on. You know they've always been able to get FTE on VS and other things. I'm actually not trying to trash talk TMO at all here, but lets be realistic, a two week suspension does not strengthen a raid guild like tmo. We took a noticeable hit from our 5 day one, or however long it was.

No offense but our guild isn't as weak in morale as yours.

We had 40+ for sky this passed sunday (which is more than we ever have) with a lot of accounts still on suspension until tomorrow... I hope you're ready for how hungry this pack of wolves will be when the suspension is lifted.

[Hitpoint]

Originally Posted by Lammy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No offense but our guild isn't as weak in morale as yours.

We had 40+ for sky this passed sunday (which is more than we ever have) with a lot of accounts still on suspension until tomorrow... I hope you're ready for how hungry this pack of wolves will be when the suspension is lifted.

We're not taking you lightly I promise.