Warriors are useless in 90% of the games content

[Toxigen]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Highest hp?
Check!

Highest baseline mitigation?
Check!

3 full minutes of god mode per 7 minutes (43% uptime)?
Check!

Superior damage tables?
Check!

Innate mainhand triple attack at 60 (oh so sweet with a 2 hander)
Check!

Doesn’t need a bunch of extra mana buffs to rock out with cock out?
Check!

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Grab a cheap Frostreaver from Dain and you will have both superior threat and dps. For all other situations where you didn’t even need the threat proc substitute in a ToV 2 hander for damage output unimaginable by a knight.

For the record I don’t think I have ever parsed a dps output difference in or out of evasive. If it exists at all it is not really noticeable.

Paladins specifically are quite useful in less than ideal groups or when hunting with mouth breathers. They do have an actually useful spell kit that covers a wide range of abilities and roles. Honorable mention for paladins.

Shadowknights mostly just suck compared to either other tank class for 95% of content. For 4 of the remaining 5% they are comparably useful. For that last 1% they really only add value cause FD … but 2 other classes can do that too … so just skip the SK and bring a monk instead.

That’s ok though. This game isn’t hard and even scrub classes like SKs can be wildly successful. Heck … I bet SKs who didnt even know there was a FD fail message will manage to win at this game. It really isn’t hard.

lol 10/10

[Cecily]

As a maxed out DPS rogue I don't care who tanks something, as long as they do.
Warriors are pretty good. I do like their DPS. I prefer knights in HoT and NToV clears for immediate sieve / slows, but it honestly doesn't matter at all if you adjust appropriately. If the person tanking is capable of tanking the thing, then they can tank the thing.

[fortior]

I like bow questing on my warrior with the gleed bow

[Sonark]

I don't understand how much XP you guys think you need if you have a Warrior or knight class so well-equipped you need to have constant pulling, all the time, everywhere.

[Troxx]

I can’t speak for anyone but myself but outside of raids …

If I am horsing around doing dumb shit solo and die, I will frequently just run back and loot without bothering to find a rez. I enjoy the xp loss at some level because it gives me reasons to log in that don’t involve batphones

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Unlike Troxx, I admit when I make a mistake, or didn't know something. Troxx cannot do this. Instead, he tries to attack other posters to try and appear correct. Just look at his signature and location.

Unfortuately he hasn't done anything to show why Warriors are better than SK's for group content. Nor will he do so, as proving his points with facts and logic isn't his style.

[Duik]

Burn.

[Cecily]

There's no "better" in this situation. It's a dumb debate. It's either tanked or not. If it's tanked, it's tanked well or poorly based on gear and skill. The class doesn't matter. My rogue is an objectively better tank in terms of surviability (and agro) than A LOT of knights and warriors.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's no "better" in this situation. It's a dumb debate. It's either tanked or not. If it's tanked, it's tanked well or poorly based on gear and skill. The class doesn't matter. My rogue is an objectively better tank in terms of surviability (and agro) than A LOT of knights and warriors.

There are always objectively better or worse classes in all scenarios. Such is the nature of an unbalanced class-based game. There is no harm in supplying the facts. Knowledge is power, and there is no need to obfuscate facts, even if the intent is to do something like destigmatize a class. Not saying you are doing that specifically.

As I've said before, you shouldn't stimgmatize Warriors. They can tank just fine in a group. Please invite them. They just aren't quite as good as Knights in most content, unless Warrior discs are needed.

[Troxx]

Naethyn already pulled your pants down.

Originally Posted by Naethyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I won't try to argue why dps is good, but If we are going to categorize content by warrior disc, I propose we do the same for knight spells. What content needs knight spells?

He posed that question. You admitted no content really needs knight spells.

Originally Posted by Naethyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So if knight spells aren’t absolutely necessary and neither are warrior discs that only leaves dps and hp and the warrior does better at both.

Fun times.

Are we gonna morph this into another DSM thread?

Perhaps you should just schedule an appointment with your therapist to point out where, on the doll, the mean trolls touch you.