Raid Changes

[Frieza_Prexus]

Originally Posted by Asher [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My main point was that I don't recall it being anywhere near 17 weeks. I was in Souls of Mir and we raided some targets with NO at the time. Mobs spawn every 7 days? 4 or 5 guilds means 4 or 5 weeks per target assuming all guilds were capable of killing the target. KTF only let people in on the rotation on the mob if they could demonstrate that they were capable of killing it.

How are you arriving at this 17 week number?

Asher

My main point is that rotations are fine when they're small and well-controlled.

On Prexus 17 weeks was the projected kill time for VS because there were so many guilds on the rotation.

KTF, Unity, Domus Divinae, NO, Stasis, Trinity Alliance, Twilight Council, Twilight Avengers, Talionis, Southern Armada, D'Etre, Infinitus Vindicat, EA, Angel Time, Birds of Prey, PAI, Phoenix Elite (I think), Raging Boars (pre Unity merge), Skyfire, and several others all participated in the rotation system.

Any guild that could field a raid force was given a shot. There were always one or two attempts every spawn cycle for a guild to slide in causing further delay. At one point, there were over 17 guilds on the VS rotation. That is simply absurd.

[Splorf22]

Well I have been pushing for linked respawns for months now with no results, but hopefully this is what Nilbog has been hinting at. I actually think 2x/week with known times like they do on Eqmac would probably be best. FTE shout is a great idea, I would actually also suggest a spawn shout, ideally serverwide but even zonewide would be great. 'You dare challenge me' or some nonsense, just to eliminate this stupid tracking with audio triggers.

Elethia and Xasten are right on too; imagine having to actually figure out all the hints in those epic quests. Instead I had an epic <2 weeks after launch. Everyone knows the ins and outs of the quests, the best mechanics, the best items, the best strategy, etc. Velious will help a lot; I just bought a Sarnak Warhammer from Eleet's alt Kegluas because he got his *alt* VP weapons!

Xadion needs to get laid :P

[azeth]

I've nothing to say other than to the folks who joined post-poopsock era -

Without a variance, you will sit and wait for days to kill targets. Eventually, you'll find your guild distributing loot based on time played, not skill involved.

You do not want this.

I suggest you push for a rotation with TMO and leave the GMs alone.

[Zereh]

GM-led raids: They decide what mob you get to kill, HOW to kill the mob, what time the fight occurs, who is allowed to attend and then hand out loot Via the buddy system.

[Zereh]

Originally Posted by azeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Without a variance, you will sit and wait for days to kill targets. Eventually, you'll find your guild distributing loot based on time played, not skill involved.

This. x1000

[Tarathiel]

Originally Posted by Zereh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

GM-led raids: They decide what mob you get to kill, HOW to kill the mob, what time the fight occurs, who is allowed to attend and then hand out loot Via the buddy system.

omg stop being so pessimistic, we are not calling for a GM enforced rotation, but for the players to come together (like we have been this past week) and work something out that will benefit everyone, not just the top 1% and their alts....

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Tarathiel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

omg stop being so pessimistic, we are not calling for a GM enforced rotation, but for the players to come together (like we have been this past week) and work something out that will benefit everyone, not just the top 1% and their alts....

Again according to server population alone tmo is the top 20-25%. How much loot reallocation do you want.

[Silentone]

Originally Posted by Ambrotos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No I won't talk about rotations. It won't happen.

nom nom nom

[Xadion]

Originally Posted by Silentone [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

nom nom nom

win... Must have missed that while I was out having sex.

[Tarathiel]

all that means to me is that GM's wont be enforcing a rotation, which is not what were asking for... if people could just stop acting like spoiled little children for 5 minutes im sure an agreement could be worked out that would require ZERO gm interference