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Old 02-17-2021, 02:47 PM
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Firstly, cages were built in 2014 or started the construction of those, thereof so obviously, this is Obama but were there actual kids chained there?
Oh cool so Obama did build the cages, but he used them in a way that wasn't terrible. So it's cool to be put into a cage and separated from your family but once you're allegedly chained to that cage, that's when we've gone too far. Ok pal.



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Also, nobody is talking about Obama right now, nor Trump, even.
I mean you can't be serious, you inject Trump into the conversation quite regularly. See [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] below


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Also, if we going to pin the death of millions starving on mao, can we pin the BILLIONS starving under capitalism?
Keep peddling this Great Leap Forward as a famine issue that was unavoidable. You're showing yourself to be a real clown lately.

No we can't, because in America the biggest issue most Americans face is too much food.


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Can we pin the death of the hundred of thousands of died of covid DIRECTLY on trump who said it was going to leave as if by magic and his following inaction?
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Oh look who's talking about Trump, but I thought we weren't talking about Trump? You bring him up in the same thread...can't make it up.

It could just leave as if by magic. That's what happened with the influenza pandemic of 1918, it just disappeared. Could that happen? Certainly. Has it? Nope. If you think you can pin all covid deaths on one president you're again showing how intellectually shallow you are. You're nothing but a partisan troll. You don't even live in the USA.


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But pinning death on mao is easier because he is chinese and not american.
conservative bias, again.
Here we see the lefty playing the identity politic card when it isn't a valid move. Serious people don't deny anything about the atrocities of the right during Nazi Germany. However it is fairly common for lefties to dismiss the staggering death that can be laid at the feet of the Left.

I want you to dig deep and think about why I can so casually admit that the Right has and can go too far in it's ideas but you are twisting yourself up to categorize 60+ Million deaths as a famine.

Sort of like in Venezuela where dying of starvation wasn't allowed to be used as a cause of death. Malnutrion not allowed
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Old 02-17-2021, 02:54 PM
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^ lol the pro-stupidity crowd at it again. The only reason he said it would magically go away is because he DIDNT WANT IT TO AFFECT HIS REELECTION and his HOLD ON POWER, not because it ever would. Not because anyone in his admin told him it actually would. But your the type that thinks the umbilical cord belongs to the baby.. Just laughable.. So much projection in your post. Calling others clowns, intellectually shallow, partisan trolls. PROJECTION
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Old 02-17-2021, 03:22 PM
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Oh the cages that were created and first used under the Obama administration that wasn't an issue prior to Trump being in office. As soon as Trump took over it was now his creation.

The problem with the Left is it's very unclear when they go to far. It's super clear to see when the right goes too far, racial superiority is a tell tale sign of the right going to far.

Can you provide a sign when the Left goes too far? Once they've killed 70 Million to achieve utopia isn't an acceptable answer, sorry Mao.
hmm. a powerful post. i will mediatet on this.
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Old 02-17-2021, 03:35 PM
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Plus, I don't want to distract the discussion too much where we go back at the original point but because you guys spew shit without really checking, I delved in on the subject at hand, a little.

Not only did Obama was severely criticized for the construction of the cages, he was also criticized by conservative news outlet of not using... more.

Notwithstanding all of this, it is rather obvious to anyone watching the news unfold that we're not even a month into Biden presidency and left leaning news outlet are already criticizing him.

Compare that to Fox news who never contradict the president and you start to get an objective view of what is going on. The right lies, the left tries to impove.

We've had Fox news saying that covid isn't real.
then it said that it was real but it was china virus.
then it said that it doesn't hurt anyone and will go away as if by magic.
then they said ok you can die from this but we have freedom you can't force me to wear a mask!
Then they discussed human rights and didn't care that americans businessman want to privatize water in africa because this is not a human right, access to water.
then they wondered about vaccines.
then they peddled Trump's lies.
And then they didn't care about Trump little judge ceremony where people actually got infected and are now at the: THIS KILELR VIRUS ON THE LOOSE, JOE BIDEN DOES NOTHING.
And complaining that for his ceremony, some people might have been too close.

And you still attack the left in this topic because we got nothing constructive to say.

Dude.
You literally defend children in cages and fox news, even though clearly, you are also trying to sound articulate and intelligent and a centrist because logic trumps all.

This is getting weird and confusing.

Left leaning medias are closer to the truth while till advocating ideologies
Right leaning medias are closer to opinion while still advancing ideologies.

left media is in the middle, right wing media is at the rock bottom.


again. we are three weeks into Biden's presidency and they are already criticizing him.
we know how to look inward, do you?
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Old 02-17-2021, 03:35 PM
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How come you overlook the intentional genocide of 50 million Ukrainians in the Holodomor, where Stalin oversaw the redirection of all food crops in the Ukraine into the production of Cotton crops while he intentionally failed to provide them with food supplies in it's stead because he saw the Ukrainians as ethnically inferior and a political threat to his totalitarian regime?

Ethnic genocide isn't even confined to Fascism/Capitalism, the left genocided more Ukrainians than Hitler genocided Jews. The Ukrainians were cutting their own limbs off to feed to their children, and eating their children to survive an entire decade of intentional starvation of its people.
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We are 8 billion people on this planet yet americans think people dying of starvation is weird because in america we only have too much food problem.


wow focused on your navel much?
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Old 02-17-2021, 03:39 PM
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How come you overlook the intentional genocide of 50 million Ukrainians in the Holodomor, where Stalin oversaw the redirection of all food crops in the Ukraine into the production of Cotton crops while he intentionally failed to provide them with food supplies in it's stead because he saw the Ukrainians as ethnically inferior and a political threat to his totalitarian regime?

Ethnic genocide isn't even confined to Fascism/Capitalism, the left genocided more Ukrainians than Hitler genocides Jews. The Ukrainians were cutting their own limbs off to feed to their children, and eating their children to survive.

what about the dumping of nuclear weapons on civilian targets?
We often don't talk about this.

What about all the coup d'états that supported and propped dictators who then killed millions?
edit: das ok, it is to portect and further american interests!
What about the killing of millions of civilian iraqis?

Does that count or no?
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tag yourself, im "hyper-partisan liberal" news source Jacobin
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Old 02-17-2021, 03:39 PM
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BYUE, you are on ignore. Zodium can speak for you, because you do not know how to refrain from disingenuous argumentation. Don't even bother responding to me, because I'm not reading your knee-jerk maple leaf bullshit.
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Old 02-17-2021, 03:41 PM
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And again, topic at hand: fox news.


Fox news barely criticized trump in four years.

Jesus washington post shat on biden the first day.

Notice any glaring differences or you want to keep diverting the topic?

P.S: yes, left leaning news outlet shat on obama for building these cages.
This IS the topic at hand, no?

What happened to Fox news?
Why you american't see that you're being played.
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