Congratulations Lord Bob

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by hatelore [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are you fucking slow? If you are attacking a mob, whether a monk or sk, and you immediately feign, guess what ? You will not get a successful fd. You have to pause and stop attack for at least a second before you feign, to get a succesful aggro.

Let me explain social aggro because you obviously are too slow to understand it. If someone pulls a mob, and another mob is near that will normally assist, guess what homeskittle? Your going to get both mobs. But since you did not attack both mobs, the social aggro mob will follow you, but if someone else is closeby and attacking a mob, it will go to that person. This is what happened. As I was killing my bug, he pulled 2 mobs past me, the social aggro mob stopped and attacked me.

At this point I attempted fd but I didn't pause and stop attack, so my fd was not successful. At this point I stood, still with my bug and the one he trained on me, and killed my bug. After I killed my bug I fd, and he got back the original that he initially pulled.

I'm a monk and understand aggro perfectly. But as you had no idea whoms camp it was (You were taking the word of you guildie you readily admit). You likely were in someone else's camp pulling mobs that you should not have been pulling while they were waiting on clarification of another person walking in their camp taking mobs. Then while pulling mobs in the persons camp you stop to fight the mob in the middle of a pull path ??? Then you get mad when they decide to pull mobs in THEIR camp and they social aggro you because you were in someone else's camp. You sound like the slow one personally.

Then after pulling a mob in someone else's camp...You social aggro their pull with that mob because you were fighting it in a pull path and then FLOP your mob as well into their pull. Hm sounds like someone definitely trained someone here but not the person you claimed.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you guys should duel

haha only if you loan me a sow pot!

[hatelore]

Haha,


Hi Tasang, Have you seen the new Ruby Crown and Emerald ring I just got in? lawl.

Funniest part was watching him train me, then me own my bug with another bug beating on me, and look out of the corner of my eyes and see him and his bard friend die to about 5 frogs. That shit was def karma. lawl

[hatelore]

Originally Posted by Lazie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm a monk and understand aggro perfectly. But as you had no idea whoms camp it was (You were taking the word of you guildie you readily admit). You likely were in someone else's camp pulling mobs that you should not have been pulling while they were waiting on clarification of another person walking in their camp taking mobs. Then while pulling mobs in the persons camp you stop to fight the mob in the middle of a pull path ??? Then you get mad when they decide to pull mobs in THEIR camp and they social aggro you because you were in someone else's camp. You sound like the slow one personally.

Then after pulling a mob in someone else's camp...You social aggro their pull with that mob because you were fighting it in a pull path and then FLOP your mob as well into their pull. Hm sounds like someone definitely trained someone here but not the person you claimed.

Lol, I am not even going to argue that, that were enough people around to see what happened. You should go smoke another one~

Go read the camp rules. You obviously have not.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by hatelore [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Haha,


Hi Tasang, Have you seen the new Ruby Crown and Emerald ring I just got in? lawl.

Funniest part was watching him train me, then me own my bug with another bug beating on me, and look out of the corner of my eyes and see him and his bard friend die to about 5 frogs. That shit was def karma. lawl

It's sure is funny you trained them with another mob yes while they were dealing with their pull. I am done here because obviously you don't understand that you were actually the one in the wrong in this situation. I mean you admitted you walked into the camp on the word of a guildie without knowing the situation. I really wish ya the best but people have been suspended for doing what you did.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by hatelore [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol, I am not even going to argue that, that were enough people around to see what happened. You should go smoke another one~

Go read the camp rules. You obviously have not.

You should reread them if you think you remotely understand them.

[hatelore]

Here you go, since you are too slow to understand the rules about training.


Training can be defined as the intentional manipulation of NPC Placement and Aggro in such a way that causes it to attack another player that it wouldn't have otherwise if at it's normal spawn location. The most basic form of this is "dumping" mobs near another player or party and escaping via a form of teleportation or death. Intentional or not, this is against the rules.

pay close attention to the area of the sentence that mentions dumping, Then you might get a grasp as to what he did to me.

And also, just in case you are too slow to understand it, the camp was not his. When you sit on your ass for 10 to 15 min arguing, not killing mobs at a camp you supposedly claim, that is not your camp anymore, Not that it was his anyway. You need to be killing or working toward killing the mobs at the camp you supposedly claim. When I got up to kill the bug, that was the same moment I was claiming that camp as my own.

And yes, he did intentionally train me. Luckily Karma was close by and killed him with 5 frogs.

[hatelore]

But since you were obviously there, you obviously have a good grasp as to wtf happened =P. Either way, bless your heart for being a good champ and sticking up for your training buddy lawl .

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by hatelore [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here you go, since you are too slow to understand the rules about training.


Training can be defined as the intentional manipulation of NPC Placement and Aggro in such a way that causes it to attack another player that it wouldn't have otherwise if at it's normal spawn location. The most basic form of this is "dumping" mobs near another player or party and escaping via a form of teleportation or death. Intentional or not, this is against the rules.

pay close attention to the area of the sentence that mentions dumping, Then you might get a grasp as to what he did to me.

And also, just in case you are too slow to understand it, the camp was not his. When you sit on your ass for 10 to 15 min arguing, not killing mobs at a camp you supposedly claim, that is not your camp anymore, Not that it was his anyway. You need to be killing or working toward killing the mobs at the camp you supposedly claim. When I got up to kill the bug, that was the same moment I was claiming that camp as my own.

And yes, he did intentionally train me. Luckily Karma was close by and killed him with 5 frogs.

Except that all goes out of the window when you invade someone elses camp and engage a mob in their pull path that is a mob in their camp. This will be my last post to you because you are too slow to grasp the weight of what you did. You should have read the new PNP instead of saying "Fuck it I'll pull".

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

2. You must comply with arbitration for contested spawns.

There are cases where two or more groups wish to kill the same NPC or hunt in the same area. In these cases, the groups are required to compromise.

If an equitable compromise cannot be reached between the players prior to Project 1999 Customer Service Staff involvement, the P99CSR will mandate a compromise. Any such compromise is final and not open to debate. Refusing to abide by these terms will be considered disruption and may result in disciplinary action.

It is therefore strongly suggested that the groups make every attempt to reach a compromise that they can live with prior to involving a P99CSR, who may mandate a compromise that does not suit you to the extent that a player-devised compromise would.

Note: A "group" in this case is defined as a party of one or more characters that are united in a common belief or goal and are capable of completing that goal.

Project 1999 Staff will not be defining what constitutes a camp. Instead, Project 1999 Customer Service Staff will arbitrate spawn disputes on a per-case-basis. We greatly encourage players to find their own resolution to spawn disputes, as the solution provided by the staff will at best be a win-lose situation, and possbily a lose-lose situation. No two decisions, even at the same 'camp', are guaranteed to be the same, as we will take into account multiple factors in making a determination on a 'camp'.

That being said, you can absolutely "camp" mobs, and you cannot steal another players 'camp'. In general, if the placeholder or placeholders for a spawn are being killed, that 'camp' can be considered held by the player doing the killing so long as they are keeping the placeholders cleared. You do not necessarily need to be at the spawn point to call it 'claimed' while it is uncontested, however, if someone else wishes to contest the 'camp' you do need to return to the 'camp' and maintain a presence at or very near the spawn(s) in order to hold it. You cannot hold multiple 'camps' if another group wishes to contest one that you are holding. The player holding multiple 'camps' retains the right to choose which 'camp' to give up.

Please do your best to use courtesy and common sense when interacting with other players in spawn disputes.

Now can you see where you went wrong here ? You went into a camp under dispute that the GMs are asking players to work out between themselves before involving staff. Instead of waiting on a compromise to be reached you basically went cowboy and said "Fuck it, I'll pull". Which in turn made the other party disputing the camp that they had been at before anyone else say "Oh no you don't I will pull too since this was my camp to begin with". Your actions further escalated a dispute and problem instead of helping resolve it. It got worse when you couldn't handle aggro in a camp under dispute and flopped your pull in with theirs.

[hatelore]

hahaha, dude, you are pretty slow man. I am not going to spam this thread anymore with this drama.

The good news is, Tanasg , after crying in ooc, training, and dying, eventually got the camp, not sure if he could hold it after I left, but I am pretty sure he did get it in the end.

I could give two fucks about the camp to be honest, I def don't need any pp and there are much easier and faster ways to level then to camp a gem camp.

And like I said in the beginning, if a gm would weigh in, he would most definitely tell you that Tanasg is a basketcase who didn't have the camp in the first place. You gloss over the fact that he was trying to ks the person who originally claimed the camp , the fact that he trained me, and the fact that he is a overall douche.

Anyone that has ever grouped with me, knows I am a standup guy, and this is the first drama I think I have ever been in on this server regarding a camp dispute, lol.

His whole argument, for all of this was " I hate chest and I am sick of bda running over me " that was his own words too lol. Poor guy takes this game way too seriously, if he is married, I am pretty sure his poor wife misses him.