5-4 incoming?

[starkind]

Already hung out with my mom and watched a silly episode of x files she wanted me to see where Scully's password is https://deusex.fandom.com/wiki/Queequeg%27s Good one.

Anyway happy mother's day folks!

[loramin]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The government already tells you what to do with your body if you murder someone: you go to jail. That isn't anything new. As a society we do agree to certain conditions in which you lose your bodily autonomy.

Killing someone is the definition of messing with someone else's body. You basically just argued my point by arguing your's so poorly.

Again, prior to this ruling the government would never interfere with what you do with your own body ...

... except when it came to drugs, and even then doing drugs has never been illegal! Possessing them was (because, again, the constitution used to offer a protection against the government messing with your body, but not against you owning certain things).

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Killing someone is the definition of messing with someone else's body.

Exactly! Now you understand why abortion is a problem[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] a Baby's body is someone else's body. You're the one helping out my argument.

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Killing someone is the definition of messing with someone else's body. You basically just argued my point by arguing your's so poorly.

Define someone's body:

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Translation: I have a right to tell other people what to do with their own bodies, and someday I want the government to tell me what I can do with mine.

I have asked you like 50 direct questions, not once have you responded to one, but THIS is what you chose to respond to.

I try to treat you like a human being but you offer no such exchange.

The irony is you're trying to tell me what a human being is while that happens.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have asked you like 50 direct questions, not once have you responded to one, but THIS is what you chose to respond to.

I try to treat you like a human being but you offer no such exchange.

The irony is you're trying to tell me what a human being is while that happens.

Loramin's argument precisely portrays the flaw pro-abortionists have in their logic, which prevents them from seeing clearly.

They have to believe babies aren't people to justify killing them. It's the same thing the Nazi's did to the Jewish people. They use "science" to proclaim someone they want to kill isn't a person, and therefore skirt the societal norm that murder is wrong.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Exactly! Now you understand why abortion is a problem[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] a Baby's body is someone else's body. You're the one helping out my argument.

A baby is a "someone else". A fetus is not.

It has nothing to do with treating people as non-people, and everything to do with treating a non-person clump of cells as if it were a person.

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A baby is a "someone else". A fetus is not.

It has nothing to do with treating people as non-people, and everything to do with treating a non-person clump of cells as if it were a person.

define someone else:

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A baby is a "someone else". A fetus is not.

It has nothing to do with treating people as non-people, and everything to do with treating a non-person clump of cells as if it were a person.

And here is the issue. You actually have no evidence to suggest a clump of cells growing inside a human female's uterus isn't a person. That is your pseudo-science opinion.

[robayon]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Loramin's argument precisely portrays the flaw pro-abortionists have in their logic, which prevents them from seeing clearly.

They have to believe babies aren't people to justify killing them. It's the same thing the Nazi's did to the Jewish people. They use "science" to proclaim someone they want to kill isn't a person, and therefore skirt the societal norm that murder is wrong.

And the same thing Americans who support the military do when American bombs incinerate innocents

Or when foreign workers get murdered by thugs for daring to try to seize better working conditions

Or when pro-police people justify the police murdering someone out of open racism, you saw a lot of that in the wake of George Floyd especially, people saying "well he was just a drug addict" as if that washes their hands of the murderers they support