ASOIAF / Game of Thrones (SPOILERS INSIDE)

[Elderan]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

GRRM confirmed to have written episode 2 of season 4 (http://grrm.livejournal.com/318880.h...3584#t17543584)


soooo.... Purple Wedding in Ep2? what else could it be?!?

I know it is early in season 4, they have confirmed that. We should know for sure once they release the episode titles.

I will enjoy that episode very much. I really hope they give it justice on the show.

[Funkutron5000]

I just look forward to that little shit dying. Jack Gleeson has fucking killed it in that role. He's made Joff the perfect little monster that is oh so easy to hate.

[Dalven]

Surely the Purple Wedding - preperations were well underway in Season 3 and he has to be dead before Jaime gets back to King's Landing. If I remember rightly he's already on his way with Brienne in tow. This surely means we'll be getting Oberyn Martell in episode one as well.

Eight episodes then for Tyrion's trial, the battle at the wall (what was the situation at the wall at the end of season 3?), Stannis shenanigans, more Theon torture and Asha rescuing, Dany taking Meereen, some Ironborn - Balon has to die as well as Euron appearing, Arya and the Hound.

Awesome.

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Elderan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know it is early in season 4, they have confirmed that. We should know for sure once they release the episode titles. I will enjoy that episode very much. I really hope they give it justice on the show.

you and i both. they did a great job on the red wedding. i have faith. follow the hairnet. will there be a hairnet? will it come from the fat drunk she saved in S2 E1?

Originally Posted by Funkutron5000 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just look forward to that little shit dying. Jack Gleeson has fucking killed it in that role. He's made Joff the perfect little monster that is oh so easy to hate.

hes such a good actor, i really want to punch him in the teeth. ive seen him do panels and Q&As, he seems like a really great guy

Originally Posted by Dalven [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Surely the Purple Wedding - preperations were well underway in Season 3 and he has to be dead before Jaime gets back to King's Landing. If I remember rightly he's already on his way with Brienne in tow. This surely means we'll be getting Oberyn Martell in episode one as well. Eight episodes then for Tyrion's trial, the battle at the wall (what was the situation at the wall at the end of season 3?), Stannis shenanigans, more Theon torture and Asha rescuing, Dany taking Meereen, some Ironborn - Balon has to die as well as Euron appearing, Arya and the Hound. Awesome.

im thinking the PW as well. im pretty sure Jaime is already back in KL. i seem to remember him entering Cersei's room. we have to have Oberyn by ep3 if the PW is in ep2. and hopefully they will give him deserved screen time starting in ep1. not 8 eps for the trial either. the tywin tyrionn shae thing will be in 9, which means hound vs redviper will be in 8 or 9, marking the end of the trial. if i remember the wall situation correctly, mormont bit the dust, and Melisandre told stannis about the real battle in the north. i imagine we wont see stannis and company for a bit and then they appear to save the day in episode 10. ygritte will probably get it around ep4 or ep5. Asha prolly gonna get body snatched by stannis, Dany.. i dunno, plan to have things cut out. Balon, Euron, Victarion. but with asha already gone, she wont be at the kingsmoot. im going to LOVE the arya / hound buddy story

[Sirken]

S4 Ep9 titled "Castle Black"

new actors for Gregor Clegane, Tommen Baratheon, and Daario

D&D wrote Ep1, GRRM wrote Ep2.

the actor, Tony Way, has been brought back to play Ser Dontos Hollard, so thats a thing for the pw.

new peeps include
Roger Ashton-Griffiths as Mace Tyrell the Lord of Highgarden.
Lu Corfield as a Mole Town bordello owner.
Paola Dionisotti as Lady Anya Waynwood, a bannerman of House Arryn.
Hoji Fortuna in an unknown role.
Joel Fry as Hizdahr zo Loraq, the young scion of an ancient Meereenese noble family.
Mark Gatiss as Tycho Nestoris, a representative of the Iron Bank of Braavos.
Joseph Gatt as ????
Pedro Pascal as Oberyn Martell, called the "Red Viper", the younger brother of Doran Martell.
Indira Varma as Ellaria Sand, the paramour of Oberyn Martell.
Rupert Vansittart as Bronze Yohn Royce, a bannerman of House Arryn.
Elizabeth Webster as Walda Frey, the new wife of Roose Bolton.
Yuri Kolokolnikov as Styr, the Magnar of Thenn.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_of...%28season_4%29

[Mandalore93]

Finishing up Feast of Crows, on the last Brienne chapter then 2 more to go in total. Really loving the intrigues of this book and the way the viewpoint skips around and leaves a lot more to think about it. By contrast the first three books were a lot more cut and dried imo.

[Dalven]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you and i both. they did a great job on the red wedding. i have faith. follow the hairnet. will there be a hairnet? will it come from the fat drunk she saved in S2 E1?


hes such a good actor, i really want to punch him in the teeth. ive seen him do panels and Q&As, he seems like a really great guy


im thinking the PW as well. im pretty sure Jaime is already back in KL. i seem to remember him entering Cersei's room. we have to have Oberyn by ep3 if the PW is in ep2. and hopefully they will give him deserved screen time starting in ep1. not 8 eps for the trial either. the tywin tyrionn shae thing will be in 9, which means hound vs redviper will be in 8 or 9, marking the end of the trial. if i remember the wall situation correctly, mormont bit the dust, and Melisandre told stannis about the real battle in the north. i imagine we wont see stannis and company for a bit and then they appear to save the day in episode 10. ygritte will probably get it around ep4 or ep5. Asha prolly gonna get body snatched by stannis, Dany.. i dunno, plan to have things cut out. Balon, Euron, Victarion. but with asha already gone, she wont be at the kingsmoot. im going to LOVE the arya / hound buddy story

You're right about Jaime, he'll get to see the little shit die in the series then. I'm hoping we'll get Oberyn in episode one - hopefully they'll have him arrive for the wedding. I wonder if they'll drop in the hints about him poisoning Tywin or just leave it at Tyrion smoking him. Gonna be a good series for Jon and the wall with all that to come - surely it will end with Jon being elected Lord Commander. Also wondering how they're gonna work Stoneheart if they need to use the actress throughout the series.

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

S4 Ep9 titled "Castle Black"

new actors for Gregor Clegane, Tommen Baratheon, and Daario

D&D wrote Ep1, GRRM wrote Ep2.

the actor, Tony Way, has been brought back to play Ser Dontos Hollard, so thats a thing for the pw.

new peeps include
Roger Ashton-Griffiths as Mace Tyrell the Lord of Highgarden.
Lu Corfield as a Mole Town bordello owner.
Paola Dionisotti as Lady Anya Waynwood, a bannerman of House Arryn.
Hoji Fortuna in an unknown role.
Joel Fry as Hizdahr zo Loraq, the young scion of an ancient Meereenese noble family.
Mark Gatiss as Tycho Nestoris, a representative of the Iron Bank of Braavos.
Joseph Gatt as ????
Pedro Pascal as Oberyn Martell, called the "Red Viper", the younger brother of Doran Martell.
Indira Varma as Ellaria Sand, the paramour of Oberyn Martell.
Rupert Vansittart as Bronze Yohn Royce, a bannerman of House Arryn.
Elizabeth Webster as Walda Frey, the new wife of Roose Bolton.
Yuri Kolokolnikov as Styr, the Magnar of Thenn.

Interesting ones that stand out there to me are Hizdahr and Tycho. I don't remember seeing Hizdahr in ASOS so I wonder if we'll be getting some of the ADWD stuff in Meereen or whether he'll just be introduced towards the end. Mark Gatiss is a great actor (love the League of Gentlemen) to be cast and fairly high profile in the UK - if I remember rightly the Iron Bank representative was first in AFFC asking for cash from Cersei then the next time we see him is when he treks to the wall so I wonder if we'll be seeing a bit more from that role in this series.

Originally Posted by Mandalore93 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Finishing up Feast of Crows, on the last Brienne chapter then 2 more to go in total. Really loving the intrigues of this book and the way the viewpoint skips around and leaves a lot more to think about it. By contrast the first three books were a lot more cut and dried imo.

Yeah a definite change of pace in that book after the culmination of the various shit storms in a storm of swords - a lot more exploration of the ramifications of the war and setting a lot of the characters up for whats to come I think.

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Mandalore93 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Finishing up Feast of Crows, on the last Brienne chapter then 2 more to go in total. Really loving the intrigues of this book and the way the viewpoint skips around and leaves a lot more to think about it. By contrast the first three books were a lot more cut and dried imo.

just remember that book 5 starts after book 3, and then the timeline merges with book 4 around 750 pages in with a chapter in kings landing. the second half of book 3 is an insanity joy ride with no one at the controls. book 4 is essentially the dust settling, and then most of book 5 is just setting up book 6.

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Dalven [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're right about Jaime, he'll get to see the little shit die in the series then. I'm hoping we'll get Oberyn in episode one - hopefully they'll have him arrive for the wedding. I wonder if they'll drop in the hints about him poisoning Tywin or just leave it at Tyrion smoking him. Gonna be a good series for Jon and the wall with all that to come - surely it will end with Jon being elected Lord Commander. Also wondering how they're gonna work Stoneheart if they need to use the actress throughout the series.

The Tywin thing is interesting because the book only hints at it, the rest comes from tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorists like myself. Although, it would not be the first time the show took a liberty to clear up some speculation (ie: Robb Starks wife).

Originally Posted by Dalven [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Interesting ones that stand out there to me are Hizdahr and Tycho. I don't remember seeing Hizdahr in ASOS so I wonder if we'll be getting some of the ADWD stuff in Meereen or whether he'll just be introduced towards the end. Mark Gatiss is a great actor (love the League of Gentlemen) to be cast and fairly high profile in the UK - if I remember rightly the Iron Bank representative was first in AFFC asking for cash from Cersei then the next time we see him is when he treks to the wall so I wonder if we'll be seeing a bit more from that role in this series.

from what ive read it looks like the back half of book 3 and some parts possibly of books 4 and 5. my memory agrees with yours on Tychos, but i probably wouldnt have noticed him with all the stuff goin on in 3. i think they are accelerating the Asha/Stannis thing, so Tychos needs to speed up and get to Stannis.

Originally Posted by Dalven [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah a definite change of pace in that book after the culmination of the various shit storms in a storm of swords - a lot more exploration of the ramifications of the war and setting a lot of the characters up for whats to come I think.

well, we can hope. im still not ruling out GRRM trolling everyone, Keep Jon dead, Kill Dany in Book 6, have Arya and Aegon hook up, call their wedding song, A Song of Ice and Fire, and call it a day. realistically Aegon has a more legit claim to the throne than Dany does. but in truth, i see Dany hooking up with Victarian, at least for a short bit.

[Dalven]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The Tywin thing is interesting because the book only hints at it, the rest comes from tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorists like myself. Although, it would not be the first time the show took a liberty to clear up some speculation (ie: Robb Starks wife).



from what ive read it looks like the back half of book 3 and some parts possibly of books 4 and 5. my memory agrees with yours on Tychos, but i probably wouldnt have noticed him with all the stuff goin on in 3. i think they are accelerating the Asha/Stannis thing, so Tychos needs to speed up and get to Stannis.



well, we can hope. im still not ruling out GRRM trolling everyone, Keep Jon dead, Kill Dany in Book 6, have Arya and Aegon hook up, call their wedding song, A Song of Ice and Fire, and call it a day. realistically Aegon has a more legit claim to the throne than Dany does. but in truth, i see Dany hooking up with Victarian, at least for a short bit.

I'm a massive asoiaf tinfoil hat fan - I definitely subscribe to the Tywin poisoning, I remember being confused about why the corpse was so minging at the time. Did you read that meereeneseblot blog linked a few pages back? Dude has got some pretty good arguments for a conspiracy in Meereen.

Haha, if he's playing the long con I don't think anyone else could top a 20 year troll. I'm not convinced about Dany and Victarion although you seem convinced by the kraken and the dragon getting it together.