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Old 01-01-2014, 04:05 AM
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Again, it would be great if these types of statements & decisions were posted on the forums in an official thread instead of hearing second hand about a stream conversation. Ridiculous.
Hopefully it's not necessary. I'm sure if it's drawn out and comes to it, they will.
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Old 01-01-2014, 05:10 AM
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Go play WoW if you want your rotational instanced bullshit.
You've been so warped by the end-game grind that you can't appreciate what people are trying to change.

Ask yourself, "what is the CHALLENGE for killing x mob?".
The answer for every raid boss is tracking and mobilisation. there are no other challenges right now.

People want the challenge of Everquest to be the PVE content.
The challenge shouldn't be camping toons and making sure you have your mobile phone on you 24/7 so you can receive a batphone.

People want to take down CT with their friends and be satisfied that they are experiencing new content.

So, allow people to be challenged by the content for once. For 15 days of every month, let a structured rotation dictate which content guilds will get to experience. The remaining 15 days, you can play Sockquest, Trackquest, Altquest to your heart's desire, as they are the challenges that the majority of players are not willing to participate in.
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Old 01-01-2014, 05:18 AM
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Go play WoW if you want your rotational instanced bullshit.
Why don't you go play red and compete for mobs in PVP for real competition. I'm sure Nihilum will welcome your competitiveness with open arms. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 01-01-2014, 06:12 AM
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Old 01-01-2014, 10:42 AM
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can Roegen just show up once a week and give everyone their choice of a DE mask, cof, or free epic MQ?
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Old 01-01-2014, 10:43 AM
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Why don't you go play red and compete for mobs in PVP for real competition. I'm sure Nihilum will welcome your competitiveness with open arms. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 01-01-2014, 11:28 AM
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I'll make this clear too.

Im more than willing to be raid suspended for a week, or a month, or longer, if that's what its going to take for a proper agreement for everyone. This doesn't hurt me. This doesn't hurt the smaller guilds. Taken looses the respectable number of targets we get but it also gives us a break from this toxicity in the promise of something better in the future for all of us.

Not sure if I can say that about everyone in the top Guilds though so you had better think about that.
Hmm so the GMs are going to let this extortion stand? I saw all your other posts deflecting and trying to say that isn't what you were saying. The bottom line is atm you said you would rather extort the guilds that don't support your idea since it wont hurt you. I guess you intended to do Sky, Hate, and Fear during the suspension or maybe all of your guild was going to hang with you in EC. That's an idea make EC off limits during this time also. Anyone in EC more than the time it takes to run through it gets suspended.

It seems like any improvement to the raiding scene would help you. Baby steps all it would take is to revisit and adjust the rules periodically to keep people in check and to control any unforeseen oversights. But you don't want things to improve you want to go to being the "oppressors" with the people you feel oppressed you being your victims now.

You want a point system then make it an effort based system that rewards guilds that are willing to put in the effort tracking and killing the targets that take more work/effort.
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Old 01-01-2014, 11:38 AM
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I'm going to have to make a ticker of how many times people quote that post and try put their own spin on it.

better for everyone doesn't just mean better for me. Better for everyone also doesn't mean that everyone gets what they want. The better for the whole usually requires concessions from people.

Anyone with basic reading comprehension and who are able to see through the red haze of their own rage will understand the meaning of my stance. And its not holding anyone hostage. It is however, not rushing to a compromise that doesn't truly fix the situation because you just want to scare us into it with a looming raid suspension.

I've said this many times already. People continue with their false accusations and word games and try to pick it apart to distract people from the real issue. how about you work to offer some solutions because your continuing poo slinging isn't helping
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Old 01-01-2014, 11:48 AM
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I'm going to have to make a ticker of how many times people quote that post and try put their own spin on it.

better for everyone doesn't just mean better for me. Better for everyone also doesn't mean that everyone gets what they want. The better for the whole usually requires concessions from people.

Anyone with basic reading comprehension and who are able to see through the red haze of their own rage will understand the meaning of my stance. And its not holding anyone hostage. It is however, not rushing to a compromise that doesn't truly fix the situation because you just want to scare us into it with a looming raid suspension.

I've said this many times already. People continue with their false accusations and word games and try to pick it apart to distract people from the real issue. how about you work to offer some solutions because your continuing poo slinging isn't helping
Go back to Lower Guk Catt. We'll sell you loot, ok?
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Old 01-01-2014, 11:48 AM
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I'm going to have to make a ticker of how many times people quote that post.

better for everyone doesn't just mean better for me. Better for everyone also doesn't mean that everyone gets what they want. The better for the whole usually requires concessions from people.

Anyone with basic reading comprehension and who are able to see through the red haze of their own rage will understand the meaning of my stance.
Oh I understand it and I have no rage here for the raid situation. You don't like the concessions guilds are willing to make. You want an across the board sweep that makes everyone equal no matter the difference in effort they have or are willing to put into the game. You said it no one else did. You threatened Extortion because someone else didn't support your stance. We all have to live with things we say here. I had to eat crow last night because of something I said and guess what you do too. The difference is I wasn't threatening to hold someone else's game play hostage until they gave into my demands. The game lawyers are needed in this thread to determine if there are illegal shenanigans going on atm!!


Its funny everyone seems to think people that are serious raiders or that are raiding endgame have no life, live in basements with no light and are neckbeards. Oh and are virgins that never leave their basements. Its not necessarily true. Though I think I need to shave again since im getting a little scruffy haven't shaved since Monday.

Tell you what once the guilds stop reading these threads and work together to figure this out it will be interesting to see the changes. I really hope if people like you try to intentionally stall the process they face some consequences.

Anyway going to finish watching Sgt Bilko and then go out and enjoy the sunshine. Got a lot to do today. If you're in the area your welcome to a ham biscuit I cooked the ham last night so it will have to be reheated.
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