It's official: Riot is done.

[Mblake1981]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If anybody in Riot was smart, they'd take their good players and make a new guild with reset DKP so that they don't have to put up with the Arclers.

But do they even have any good players left?

Arcler is the new orange man bad.

[mycoolrausch]

Originally Posted by SantagarBrax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I concur with your first statement, I don't with your second. Having been in both guilds, I'll take Vanquish any day over Riot.

The amount of soakers in Riot alone is enough of a reason, notwithstanding the constant self-righteous, whinging, and holier than thou members always acting like their shit doesn't stink. The second most important reason would be the differences in leadership styles. V Leadership is adaptive, immensely competitive (even amongst themselves), and innovative. R leadership is slow, cumbersome, lacking in accountability and the will / hunger to win...they've grown fat and lazy, so to speak. In addition, they don't like challenges to their preferred method of leadership nor adapt well. The final "big" reason I prefer Vanquish over Riot is simple, the atmosphere. V is laid back, joking around, talking shit, and overall just enjoying the game without worry. R atmosphere is cancel culture, PC police, and speech police on steroids, with a dose of disconnect from each other and what makes the game fun. When it's time to dial in and focus on the win, people will be called out for trying to disrupt the "go-time" mentality in Vanquish. With Riot, it's "meh".

I'm not saying everything in Vanquish is all peaches and cream, but it's a whole lot sweeter and more enjoyable than that turd sandwich that Riot is.

P.S. Don't come over to Vanquish expecting to soak, we will hold you accountable and your feelings be damned. We also don't hold grudges so lighten up when your ass gets chewed and take it for what it's worth, then move on and enjoy the ride. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes 1000x more effort for the arbitrary change of the 10 people leading the guild people join to get pixels.

[hobart]

Originally Posted by SantagarBrax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I concur with your first statement, I don't with your second. Having been in both guilds, I'll take Vanquish any day over Riot.

The amount of soakers in Riot alone is enough of a reason, notwithstanding the constant self-righteous, whinging, and holier than thou members always acting like their shit doesn't stink. The second most important reason would be the differences in leadership styles. V Leadership is adaptive, immensely competitive (even amongst themselves), and innovative. R leadership is slow, cumbersome, lacking in accountability and the will / hunger to win...they've grown fat and lazy, so to speak. In addition, they don't like challenges to their preferred method of leadership nor adapt well. The final "big" reason I prefer Vanquish over Riot is simple, the atmosphere. V is laid back, joking around, talking shit, and overall just enjoying the game without worry. R atmosphere is cancel culture, PC police, and speech police on steroids, with a dose of disconnect from each other and what makes the game fun. When it's time to dial in and focus on the win, people will be called out for trying to disrupt the "go-time" mentality in Vanquish. With Riot, it's "meh".

I'm not saying everything in Vanquish is all peaches and cream, but it's a whole lot sweeter and more enjoyable than that turd sandwich that Riot is.

P.S. Don't come over to Vanquish expecting to soak, we will hold you accountable and your feelings be damned. We also don't hold grudges so lighten up when your ass gets chewed and take it for what it's worth, then move on and enjoy the ride. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Almost everything you said about Vanquish relates to acquisition of pixels. Not one thing about how Detoxx or Furor are nice guys and fun to pass the time with.

In my limited interactions with Arcler way back when, he seemed like a nice guy.

As for the "PC" nonsense, if you're saying Vanquish allows members to embarrass themselves with racist, homophobic, religious, or political talk, chalk another point up for Riot.

[ArbiterBlixen]

Originally Posted by hobart [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Almost everything you said about Vanquish relates to acquisition of pixels. Not one thing about how Detoxx or Furor are nice guys and fun to pass the time with.

In my limited interactions with Arcler way back when, he seemed like a nice guy.

As for the "PC" nonsense, if you're saying Vanquish allows members to embarrass themselves with racist, homophobic, religious, or political talk, chalk another point up for Riot.

You'd fit right in with Riot lol. You sound like a nice guy.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by ArbiterBlixen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You'd fit right in with Riot lol. You sound like a nice guy.

Yeah, you might fit in well with the petulant children and their whiny man child leader that literally cries to the GMs in discord to get his way.

[ArbiterBlixen]

Originally Posted by Doujou [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I thought Riot was dead back in January 2021. I look forward to the "Riot is dead" RNF shit-post in January 2022 too.

I guess we're all technically dying a little each day though, so you aren't totally wrong?

Huh? Riot killed Eashen, 2 ST golems and Vox this cycle. If you don't call that dead sure wait till January 2022.

[sydbarrett25]

Originally Posted by SantagarBrax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I concur with your first statement, I don't with your second. Having been in both guilds, I'll take Vanquish any day over Riot.

The amount of soakers in Riot alone is enough of a reason, notwithstanding the constant self-righteous, whinging, and holier than thou members always acting like their shit doesn't stink. The second most important reason would be the differences in leadership styles. V Leadership is adaptive, immensely competitive (even amongst themselves), and innovative. R leadership is slow, cumbersome, lacking in accountability and the will / hunger to win...they've grown fat and lazy, so to speak. In addition, they don't like challenges to their preferred method of leadership nor adapt well. The final "big" reason I prefer Vanquish over Riot is simple, the atmosphere. V is laid back, joking around, talking shit, and overall just enjoying the game without worry. R atmosphere is cancel culture, PC police, and speech police on steroids, with a dose of disconnect from each other and what makes the game fun. When it's time to dial in and focus on the win, people will be called out for trying to disrupt the "go-time" mentality in Vanquish. With Riot, it's "meh".

I'm not saying everything in Vanquish is all peaches and cream, but it's a whole lot sweeter and more enjoyable than that turd sandwich that Riot is.

P.S. Don't come over to Vanquish expecting to soak, we will hold you accountable and your feelings be damned. We also don't hold grudges so lighten up when your ass gets chewed and take it for what it's worth, then move on and enjoy the ride. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I mean, I agree vanquish is doing well and has really good FTE’rs. But when you compare leadership, furoar is a known two boxer who trained another guild.

[ArbiterBlixen]

Originally Posted by sydbarrett25 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I mean, I agree vanquish is doing well and has really good FTE’rs. But when you compare leadership, furoar is a known two boxer who trained another guild.

Within the scope of this game I guess that's bad. But, from the scope of everyday life, I couldn't care less about a train that happened a year ago.

[sydbarrett25]

Originally Posted by ArbiterBlixen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Within the scope of this game I guess that's bad. But, from the scope of everyday life, I couldn't care less about a train that happened a year ago.

Yea I mean, I agree. Like I could give any Fs about it. Thats just a layer of immersion too much for me. Of you need to sabotage another guild of people trying to have fun killing a dragon, like thats how I know its not for me. But im just a random.

[Mblake1981]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, you might fit in well with the petulant children and their whiny man child leader that literally cries to the GMs in discord to get his way.

sounds terrifying.