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Good explanation of natural vs enhanced, if curious

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=

[magnetaress]

Do drug built muscles have good endurance, speed, reflex, mitochdria, recovery potential? etc

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Originally Posted by magnetaress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do drug built muscles have good endurance, speed, reflex, mitochdria, recovery potential? etc

That’s a good question I don’t know enough to answer. What I’ve heard is that the benefits depend somewhat on the compound. Something like Trenbolone will for sure give crazy strength (with big side effects), while orals like the research chemical Cardarine or the steroid anavar (also oral I believe) have fat burning and endurance-boosting properties

Almost all PED’s will def improve recovery greatly tho

The thing you nailed in a previous post is that for many compounds the muscles gained are actually kind of fake when compared to natural muscle. You can even spot this, on anyone at the gym who looks like they are clearly on PED’s, often they will have a roundness, puffiness, and fullness to their muscles. That’s actually just the muscle holding lots of extra water, which is why some have to take even more drugs to try to dry themselves out

Anecdotally, there was a time 5+ yrs ago when I decided to try taking 1000mg of testosterone for 2 weeks, divided up into four 500mg doses spaced out. This was a stupid experiment, I wanted to see how horny it would make me mostly lol (also was disappointed in the result, it was more than with nothing, but also not the crazy amount I expected). What did happen is that I gained immediate size, but when I stopped taking the test, the size disappeared in literal days

I was like “wtf, even if I was bed-ridden it would still take weeks for my muscles to atrophy. Why have I lost so much visible size in just days??”. Then I found out that was just water within the muscle that had essentially evaporated. So like you said before, real natural muscles almost always look better than an equally sized muscle boosted by PED’s. The pump in the gym is unfortunately MUCH smaller as a natty though

The scary thing is the amount of very young guys I see at the gym nowadays who clearly look like they are on PED’s, especially at mountainside which is the bougey $55/mo gym that all the fitness model looking young people go to. They have not only size beyond what should be possible natty, but it’s the puffy round muscles indicative of PED’s. There’s almost as many of them as naturals now, which is a first in my lifetime to see

[magnetaress]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That’s a good question I don’t know enough to answer. What I’ve heard is that the benefits depend somewhat on the compound. Something like Trenbolone will for sure give crazy strength (with big side effects), while orals like the research chemical Cardarine or the steroid anavar (also oral I believe) have fat burning and endurance-boosting properties

Almost all PED’s will def improve recovery greatly tho

The thing you nailed in a previous post is that for many compounds the muscles gained are actually kind of fake when compared to natural muscle. You can even spot this, on anyone at the gym who looks like they are clearly on PED’s, often they will have a roundness, puffiness, and fullness to their muscles. That’s actually just the muscle holding lots of extra water, which is why some have to take even more drugs to try to dry themselves out

Anecdotally, there was a time 5+ yrs ago when I decided to try taking 1000mg of testosterone for 2 weeks, divided up into four 500mg doses spaced out. This was a stupid experiment, I wanted to see how horny it would make me mostly lol (also was disappointed in the result, it was more than with nothing, but also not the crazy amount I expected). What did happen is that I gained immediate size, but when I stopped taking the test, the size disappeared in literal days

I was like “wtf, even if I was bed-ridden it would still take weeks for my muscles to atrophy. Why have I lost so much visible size in just days??”. Then I found out that was just water within the muscle that had essentially evaporated. So like you said before, real natural muscles almost always look better than an equally sized muscle boosted by PED’s. The pump in the gym is unfortunately MUCH smaller as a natty though

The scary thing is the amount of very young guys I see at the gym nowadays who clearly look like they are on PED’s, especially at mountainside which is the bougey $55/mo gym that all the fitness model looking young people go to. They have not only size beyond what should be possible natty, but it’s the puffy round muscles indicative of PED’s. There’s almost as many of them as naturals now, which is a first in my lifetime to see

Really good points.

I believe PEDs have some pros. Just like everything else they are not going to do absolutely everything for you unless u just want bulk. The most incredible result would come from a combined approach in moderation.

Even then your burning up your metabolism and ticking through your DNA clocks. Or running into feul issues.


That video you shared. When he talks about cortisol being buffered by test. That makes so much sense. It also explains a lot of my symptoms. My body is low T like 0-5 on labs so it explains a lot of my anxiety like symptoms. Thankfully I've gotten a handle on that lately.

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Originally Posted by magnetaress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Really good points.

I believe PEDs have some pros. Just like everything else they are not going to do absolutely everything for you unless u just want bulk. The most incredible result would come from a combined approach in moderation.

Even then your burning up your metabolism and ticking through your DNA clocks. Or running into feul issues.


That video you shared. When he talks about cortisol being buffered by test. That makes so much sense. It also explains a lot of my symptoms. My body is low T like 0-5 on labs so it explains a lot of my anxiety like symptoms. Thankfully I've gotten a handle on that lately.

0-5 ng/dl??? That sounds crazy low, even for women! Are you taking something that reduces or blocks it

Women still need a certain amount for stuff I think

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Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

0-5 ng/dl??? That sounds crazy low, even for women! Are you taking something that reduces or blocks it

Women still need a certain amount for stuff I think

naw its just low low likely it spikes up to 20 is just 5 when they measure it

it is low tho i'm mad at my endo and i dont trust them for shit

never transition kids unless u are like a billionaire heirress

i dont take anything to suppress it if anything some of the extra estrogen in my system bleeds off into what little T i have plus pituitary/adrenals pumping out chemicals that downstream into T

I would be much better off if i exercised and got a lot of natural D (vitamin D) butt that aint happenin - it makes a big difference and is a great source of natural hormones

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Joesthetics is a freak

I can’t even make my tits bounce [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/

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Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Joesthetics is a freak

I can’t even make my tits bounce [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/

Holy shit that is weird.