Why is training allowed on p99 in veeshan's peak? (poll asking your opinion)

[falkun]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Or Blue.
A mob killing a player is player vs environment by its nature. Whether or its allowed or not is a different question. The trainer did 0 damage to the player = PVE, and its also classic.

No, player_A did 100% of the damage to player_B because player_B would not have any aggro from the train if it was not for intentional interference by player_A. This is exceptionally true when player_B is non-aggro to the NPCs (invis) and player_A forces an AOE from the NPCs that catches player_B. When player_A intentionally imposes the environment on player_B, that is player vs. player.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

hate to bust your bubble but training != pvp

If you define pvp as being limited to casting detrimental spells and being able to melee another player.


How is one player using the environment to kill another player (or raid) not player vs. player? People playing PvE expect to interact with the environment, not having to counter people trying to kill them, since they can't interact with that player beyond casting beneficial buffs in an attempt to game aggro.

[Raavak]

I'd say its a gray area.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So, if training was legal, I could follow you around and train you all day if i wanted? You would just have to watch out for that environment that is coming down your throat.

Obviously if it was legal you could.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you define pvp as being limited to casting detrimental spells and being able to melee another player.


How is one player using the environment to kill another player (or raid) not player vs. player? People playing PvE expect to interact with the environment, not having to counter people trying to kill them, since they can't interact with that player beyond casting beneficial buffs in an attempt to game aggro.

Those people are interacting with the environment.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you define pvp as being limited to casting detrimental spells and being able to melee another player.


How is one player using the environment to kill another player (or raid) not player vs. player? People playing PvE expect to interact with the environment, not having to counter people trying to kill them, since they can't interact with that player beyond casting beneficial buffs in an attempt to game aggro.

PeVPe

Obviously.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by p-niner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Red literally has 1% of the training that blue does we just root and shoot

Most people on blue just want to show up, talk in chat like a chat room, and be awarded pixels after autoattack killing the big pixelPiñata.

Anytime something happens that isn't in that guideline means petition, cry, bitch, moan, send pms, and then post on forums. Blue p99 is like playing with a server filled with entitled whiny teenagers.

[quido]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

IB was getting VP dragon kills with the trains

In the interest of not rewriting history, please allow me to point out that this is absolutely not true. IB never got a single kill in VP under duress of trains.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In the interest of not rewriting history, please allow me to point out that this is absolutely not true. IB never got a single kill in VP under duress of trains.

Yeah, they only managed to get them while under a rotation.

About the most successful thing I remember them doing is training us to death right after we downed a dragon and held us up from looting for a few mins.

[getsome]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, they only managed to get them while under a rotation.

About the most successful thing I remember them doing is training us to death right after we downed a dragon and held us up from looting for a few mins.

We were going to destroy that loot. Rogean came in and made the first VP rule that night.

The dragons you prevented us from killing were "your ups" not ours. The rotation was put back in place to allow for equal distribution of mobs during the entire time both guilds coexisted in VP. TMO never got one additional dragon in VP until we left.