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Old 07-09-2025, 02:37 PM
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You claim to be impartial, but you won't answer this.

If they did troll the wiki, why leave the changes in?
Because I didn't want to deal with your guys' squabble. I didn't want to have to edit the page and find the compromise, because I have other things to do with my life.

Again, no one was hurt by the page having bad edits for a week. Literally no one except the people in this thread have (probably) even seen those edits ... and the moment the page unlocks you can make them hurt your feelings less ... as long as you do so in a way that's good for everyone.
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Old 07-09-2025, 02:39 PM
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I mean for fuck's sake: if any one of you posters, DSM especially, had spent even a quarter of the effort you'd spent trying to "win" this thread by instead coming up with a soloing framework everyone can agree on ... this thing would have ended days ago!

P.S. That wasn't picking on DSM ...I'm just saying, the dude has spent more time than anyone on this thread, so a quarter of it would have been a lot.
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Old 07-09-2025, 02:40 PM
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I mean for fuck's sake: if any one of you posters, DSM especially, had spent even a quarter of the effort you'd spent on this thread trying to come up with a soloing framework everyone can agree on, this thing would have ended days ago!
That is correct. Zuranthium and Samoht could have finished their own solo challenge page by now. Thank you for agreeing with me on that too.

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Again, no one was hurt by the page having bad edits for a week.
Thank you for admitting Zuranthium and Samoht's edits were bad.

Back on topic:

Reposting OP's epic video where he kills Fungi King solo with his monk, no consumables:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wONdIYAofyQ

https://wiki.project1999.com/Solo_Artist_Challenge

It deserves the highest ranking of [S] when following the solo artist challenge wiki page. Please note the wiki page was changed after OP did his video, and the changes are still in dispute. [S+] did not exist as a rank previously.
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Old 07-09-2025, 02:43 PM
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That is correct. Zuranthium and Samoht could have finished their own solo challenge page by now.
And which do you think would be better for the community: to have fifty different challenges, or to have one with options?
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Old 07-09-2025, 02:47 PM
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And which do you think would be better for the community: to have fifty different challenges, or to have one with options?
Clearly he thinks that the original one shouldn't change because those 2 think it should.

And I agree.

It was DSM and myself that suggested adding a [S+] for samhot and zuranth.
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Old 07-09-2025, 02:47 PM
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And which do you think would be better for the community: to have fifty different challenges, or to have one with options?
You said yourself there is no official solo challenge. I agree with that.

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You're pretending the original page was "official". As the creator of that page, I can assure you it was wasn't.
The answer is multiple different solo challenges to fit different goals or ideas of what "solo" is. The community will sort out which challenges they prefer, and which ones will fall by the wayside.
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Old 07-09-2025, 02:52 PM
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The answer is multiple different solo challenges to fit different goals or ideas of what "solo" is. The community will sort out which challenge they prefer, and which ones will fall by the wayside.
That's an answer, and if it's the best we can do, then it will have to be what the wiki is stuck with.

But again ...

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And which do you think would be better for the community: to have fifty different challenges, or to have one with options?
If someone edits the page to have a single framework, that allows for differing opinions about parts, that will be what stays ... not what someone came up with outside the wiki eight years ago.
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Old 07-09-2025, 02:54 PM
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And which do you think would be better for the community: to have fifty different challenges, or to have one with options?
What difference would 1 solo challenage page with links to, different solo challanage option pages be

Compared to putting all of the different options, on one giant page, loramin?

Answer: THERE WOULD BE NO DIFFERENCE.

It would actually be easier to read/follow.

Are we supposed to combine every single Necromancer guide, that every player has done on the wiki, into one giant page? No of course not.
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Old 07-09-2025, 02:56 PM
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What difference would 1 solo challenage page with links to, different solo challanage option pages be

Compared to putting all of the different options, on one giant page, loramin?

Answer: THERE WOULD BE NO DIFFERENCE.

It would actually be easier to read/follow.

Are we supposed to combine every single Necromancer guide, that every player has done on the wiki, into one giant page? No of course not.
I strongly disagree. Under your version, someone goes to the Solo Artist Challenge page and has to read twenty different takes on the right way to solo. I truly don't think that's necessary.

I believe we can find a way to talk about soloing that doesn't require tiers or anyone to decide whether someone else's solo is valid or not. And whatever that looks like is what I think belongs in the wiki.
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Old 07-09-2025, 02:57 PM
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Are we supposed to combine every single Necromancer guide, that every player has done on the wiki, into one giant page? No of course not.
You could make a conglomerated page if you wanted to. Sure, why not.
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