Any Young-Earth Creationists?

[Lorraine]

Lightning - Zeus wills it.
Tsunami - Poseidon wills it.

Univerce - God wills it.


Welcome to three thousand years ago?
You're arguing semantics. Deep down, god (gods) is (are) nothing more than mankinds inherent need to explain what can not be explained by the current (present and past) eras resources and information. It's an answer to a 'need' therefore created by us, for us.

[Zadrian]

Originally Posted by Nocturne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can tell a poorly thought out argument when no reasoning is provided with a statement. I didn't come here simply stating "God did it". However, you come here and say "evolution did it". How is this any different then what you claim I'm doing? Bit hypocritical don't you think?

Providing a link that offers nothing but speculations and assumptions doesn't really count either. The whole article starting with the very title itself is laced with "could have's" and "might be's" and "if's".

You also can't just state "evolution" because there is no known mechanism in which evolution can cause inanimate matter to become alive. There is also no evidence that one species can become another entirely different species. Evolution contradicts the law of biogenesis and the laws of thermodynamics. You cannot have a scientific theory that contradicts a scientific law. Laws are undeniable scientific facts that are 100% consistent. Evolution by definition is unscientific.

Sorry, I've just given up on this fruitless nonsense. You can't have a discussion if you are unwilling to consider other people's ideas.

Anyway, point of the article wasn't to prove anything, it was to give you food for thought. You were speaking about DNA concepts so assuredly, which is impossible because, as you can see, there are still discoveries being made.

[Quiksilver]

I like this thread, so far. Someone states "abc" theory, then another swoops in and shoots it down with "xyz" theory.

The universe is huge. At this time, we as the human race have dissected 1 gram of water out of something the size of an ocean. We still don't know how the gram works so let's not get ahead of ourselves quite yet [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The universe was created this size and this complex so that we cant find the beginning. Once we find the answer to the ultimate question, we will all commit suicide because we are unhappy with the find, because we become fulfilled, or we just become bored.

*SPOILER ALERT*
Tell me, do you feel accomplished once you figured out it was your parents and not Santa Claus? Or finding out that movies are just created using smoke and mirrors? I'm going to state the obvious in saying that these are analogies. Life goes on once you find out that Santa isn't real. But could you say the same once the creator is revealed? (or if there even IS one?)
*END OF SPOILER ALERT*
I take pity on those who do not believe in some form of creator because it's a difficult life. A "believer" can life their life in ruins and suffering but will always have something to fall back on. A "non-believer" cant do that. There is no ground to stand on other than science, which is not enough. We are stupid as the human race and know virtually nothing of our selves (really? you do? why do enzymes behave the way they do?) our planet (really? you do? google the money pit and deep ocean exploration for me then) and our universe.

Billions in cash and lives have been spent searching for all the answers and we continue to come up short. I'll continue to believe in my God, while the others can continue to live their fruitless lives. Why? Because it's easier, that's why. I simply choose not to pursue a meaningless effort.

I am NOT saying that God gives meaning to my life. What He represents is what gives my life meaning. I choose not to pursue where we, planets, and the universe came from because we aren't going to find the answers in our lifetime. It's made that way for a reason.

I've stuck my neck out there, come get some [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Hitchens]

Originally Posted by Quiksilver [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I like this thread, so far. Someone states "abc" theory, then another swoops in and shoots it down with "xyz" theory.

The universe is huge. At this time, we as the human race have dissected 1 gram of water out of something the size of an ocean. We still don't know how the gram works so let's not get ahead of ourselves quite yet [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The universe was created this size and this complex so that we cant find the beginning. Once we find the answer to the ultimate question, we will all commit suicide because we are unhappy with the find, because we become fulfilled, or we just become bored.

*SPOILER ALERT*
Tell me, do you feel accomplished once you figured out it was your parents and not Santa Claus? Or finding out that movies are just created using smoke and mirrors? I'm going to state the obvious in saying that these are analogies. Life goes on once you find out that Santa isn't real. But could you say the same once the creator is revealed? (or if there even IS one?)
*END OF SPOILER ALERT*
I take pity on those who do not believe in some form of creator because it's a difficult life. A "believer" can life their life in ruins and suffering but will always have something to fall back on. A "non-believer" cant do that. There is no ground to stand on other than science, which is not enough. We are stupid as the human race and know virtually nothing of our selves (really? you do? why do enzymes behave the way they do?) our planet (really? you do? google the money pit and deep ocean exploration for me then) and our universe.

Billions in cash and lives have been spent searching for all the answers and we continue to come up short. I'll continue to believe in my God, while the others can continue to live their fruitless lives. Why? Because it's easier, that's why. I simply choose not to pursue a meaningless effort.

I am NOT saying that God gives meaning to my life. What He represents is what gives my life meaning. I choose not to pursue where we, planets, and the universe came from because we aren't going to find the answers in our lifetime. It's made that way for a reason.

I've stuck my neck out there, come get some [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Voltaire already addressed Pascal's Wager.

[Hailto]

Originally Posted by Nocturne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How is there no evidence? There is so much evidence that I seriously can't believe that people still don't believe in God in 2013.

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[Tenlaar]

Originally Posted by Nocturne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Actually the gods of ancient mythology were real people that actually existed and still do. They are simply very advanced beings that were called gods because of their technology. They too however were created by God but this is a completely different discussion. I will say this tho, there is an ancient text by Apollo stating that the gods were ordered by Jesus to leave the planet, several hundred years before he was born. So how does Apollo...a supposedly fake person, know about or even have a conversation with someone who hasn't even been born yet? Unless of course Apollo was a real person and Jesus really is who he says he is.

Oh good lawd, and I thought this thread had already taken every turn on stupid road.

[Hailto]

Originally Posted by Nocturne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well actually everything I've said is already proven fact but just like every other controversial proven fact in history, the majority is always against it until one day it just becomes common sense. In fact let me give you a perfect example of how people like you are like a boulder for the human race that intelligent people like me have to carry.



So this guy discovers a way to save the lives of literally millions of people but because he couldn't explain it in a scientific manner, he was discredited and driven out of the medical community only to be imprisoned and taken to an asylum where he was beaten to death. Then literally just a few years after his death, Louis Pasteur discovered that germs were in fact the cause of infection and could prove it scientifically.

Soon, the medical community had no choice but to face the reality of the situation at which point they were like "lolz bro, turned out you were right about those germs, totally didn't mean to destroy your life, have you locked up and sent to an asylum. Oh and the whole beating you to death thing, again, my bad bro lolz".

Call me a troll, call me whatever you like. You're those same exact scum bags, just 200 years in the future. People thought Greek mythology was just that...a myth. Until the "mythical" City of Troy was actually discovered in this thing called "reality" just several decades ago, proving that not only Greek mythology, but all mythology, might actually be based on fact. Oh, how was the city of Troy discovered you ask? Well wouldn't you know, the guy actually took the books seriously and followed the clues in them! LOL What a fucking moron, right? Well guess what retards, he's now one of the most famous archaeologists of all time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVBzFjWywtg

Nail in the coffin right there really. Just a matter of time before the rest of mythology is proven to be based on fact and real history.

So tell me what advancement us athiestic dumb asses are holding back. You're making a pretty bold claim with that comparison. What is the religious world currently offering the community that science is scoffing at?

[Lorraine]

Originally Posted by Nocturne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Call me a troll, call me whatever you like. You're those same exact scum bags, just 200 years in the future. People thought Greek mythology was just that...a myth. Until the "mythical" City of Troy was actually discovered in this thing called "reality" just several decades ago, proving that not only Greek mythology, but all mythology, might actually be based on fact. Oh, how was the city of Troy discovered you ask? Well wouldn't you know, the guy actually took the books seriously and followed the clues in them! LOL What a fucking moron, right? Well guess what retards, he's now one of the most famous archaeologists of all time.

Nail in the coffin right there really. Just a matter of time before the rest of mythology is proven to be based on fact and real history.

Θα μπορούσα να σου εξηγήσω ποιός ακριβώς είναι ο ορισμός της λέξης "Μυθολογία" αλλά δεν θα έχει κανένα νόημα σε αυτό το σημείο που έχεις φτάσει.

What? It's all greek to you, you say?
#dealwithit

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Nocturne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well actually everything I've said is already proven fact but just like every other controversial proven fact in history, the majority is always against it until one day it just becomes common sense. In fact let me give you a perfect example of how people like you are like a boulder for the human race that intelligent people like me have to carry.



So this guy discovers a way to save the lives of literally millions of people but because he couldn't explain it in a scientific manner, he was discredited and driven out of the medical community only to be imprisoned and taken to an asylum where he was beaten to death. Then literally just a few years after his death, Louis Pasteur discovered that germs were in fact the cause of infection and could prove it scientifically.

Soon, the medical community had no choice but to face the reality of the situation at which point they were like "lolz bro, turned out you were right about those germs, totally didn't mean to destroy your life, have you locked up and sent to an asylum. Oh and the whole beating you to death thing, again, my bad bro lolz".

Call me a troll, call me whatever you like. You're those same exact scum bags, just 200 years in the future. People thought Greek mythology was just that...a myth. Until the "mythical" City of Troy was actually discovered in this thing called "reality" just several decades ago, proving that not only Greek mythology, but all mythology, might actually be based on fact. Oh, how was the city of Troy discovered you ask? Well wouldn't you know, the guy actually took the books seriously and followed the clues in them! LOL What a fucking moron, right? Well guess what retards, he's now one of the most famous archaeologists of all time.



Nail in the coffin right there really. Just a matter of time before the rest of mythology is proven to be based on fact and real history.

The tide comes in.... the tide goes out... what more proof do you need !

[Rhambuk]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The tide comes in.... the tide goes out... what more proof do you need !

The moon = god