Zero Reasons not to Wipe

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Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm straight up saying.. it is within the power of the leading guilds to change the server as it stands. Why isn't that done? Is it only for loot?

Because if you consider the leadership is unemployed and enjoy farming dragon pixels and then consider the underground market of RMT you could draw assumptions but I don't want to get banned for the 100th time namean?

Also see previous post about blue rejects and MQ ban receivers that play in that guild. Here they got a second chance. Nilly doesn't care about the health of your project you poured your sweat into. They want money, loot, and could care less if they had 30 online at peak hours all tagged Nihilum.

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Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It amazes me how well people get along with each other.

On live, there were many more guilds. Was it because of more players?.. That was my original thought but now I'm not really sure. I think people have fallen into sheep roles where as long as someone is willing to lead, they will march 10x10 as long as they get loot.

I would have thought there would be a point where people would be like.. FUUUUUCK YOU, I'm out. That doesn't seem to happen. Are the leaders really that good, or are the followers sheeped out?

This 'problem' could be resolved by players leaving their current guilds and making more.. guilds. This power does reside with the people. I'm sure I'll get responses like, wipe the server, or that I don't know what I'm talking about.. but.. this is something I've seen on both pve and pvp now, and it's different than live.. emu phenomenon?

Ready to have a bunch of 10-15 man guilds that do seb and pvp but web Nihilum has a 100 man rosterx3 vP geared alts plugged into zones for lemmings style PvP it's not a viable option.

Forced to counterzerg under shit guild with shit leader spending 3 hours buffing and lfg while being told to follow a bard that doesn't selo your group and has your 30 members stream across 3 zones and get 1 shotted.

Classic. Vlassic.

[Malevz]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think people have fallen into sheep roles where as long as someone is willing to lead, they will march 10x10 as long as they get loot.

You should consider the fact that some of us genuinely like our guildies. I started out disliking Nihilum, killing them in Uprising, then in my own guild. Eventually Supreme told me it was a good group of people and I decided to join.

Now there is a ton of people I like. I troll Tune constantly, and he trolls me back and I laugh my ass off. He acts mock offended because it makes it funnier sometimes. Nizzar yelling OMG you guys are retarded makes me laugh. Ordaga calling out during raid ... um who keeps trying to chain snare me is great fun. Hassling Nothxu because he attacked a Nihilum alt in KC, Cyborella making jokes in teamspeak, and all the danish people we have making swede jokes... Old man Arzak... Dekadenz asking about how to play magic the gathering... Checkraise saying mkaymkay and listening to 5 people trying to imitate him. Seeing new people in the guild and helping gear them up and get their epics...

EQ is the game it is because of the community. You spend hours a day leveling, questing, raiding, and helping the same people, you get used to them. I like the pvp, and the pve, but the reason I keep logging in is because in <Defiant> on live and <Nihilum> here, it's a great group of people.

Sometimes I miss being in a four person guild, but I'd get bored running around and pvping eventually. It's the people that need a tank or a healer, or just want to bullshit in teamspeak, that's what keeps you coming back.

[GrobbGangsta]

Originally Posted by Malevz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You should consider the fact that some of us genuinely like our guildies. I started out disliking Nihilum, killing them in Uprising, then in my own guild. Eventually Supreme told me it was a good group of people and I decided to join.

Now there is a ton of people I like. I troll Tune constantly, and he trolls me back and I laugh my ass off. He acts mock offended because it makes it funnier sometimes. Nizzar yelling OMG you guys are retarded makes me laugh. Ordaga calling out during raid ... um who keeps trying to chain snare me is great fun. Hassling Nothxu because he attacked a Nihilum alt in KC, Cyborella making jokes in teamspeak, and all the danish people we have making swede jokes... Old man Arzak... Dekadenz asking about how to play magic the gathering... Checkraise saying mkaymkay and listening to 5 people trying to imitate him. Seeing new people in the guild and helping gear them up and get their epics...

EQ is the game it is because of the community. You spend hours a day leveling, questing, raiding, and helping the same people, you get used to them. I like the pvp, and the pve, but the reason I keep logging in is because in <Defiant> on live and <Nihilum> here, it's a great group of people.

Sometimes I miss being in a four person guild, but I'd get bored running around and pvping eventually. It's the people that need a tank or a healer, or just want to bullshit in teamspeak, that's what keeps you coming back.

Not gonna lie I got full on second-hand embarrassment reading this virgin-infused nostalgic rambling

In other news, it completely fails to address the issue

[Malevz]

Originally Posted by GrobbGangsta [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not gonna lie I got full on second-hand embarrassment reading this virgin-infused nostalgic rambling

In other news, it completely fails to address the issue

Enjoying the game and liking your guildmates seems to work.

How goes raging, greed, dissent and people stealing off each other work? Oh right you're crying for a pwipe. Working well I assume.

[NotKringe]

Originally Posted by Malevz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Have you considered forming up under Brobb/Kilkur. I remember Brobb from VZ, wasn't a bad guy, and seems to be a better leader than Azrael's. I mean I can see the scrambling for a server wipe cause you've lost again, and you're running out of guild names... but you should consider you have the same leadership, plus you put your faith in Kringe, so the problem is clear.

Instead of merging Force into Azrael, Azrael could app to force and have better leadership.

My Leadership is what helped us Contend and take the few dragons we did, so the problem clearly wasn't me. Me and Lite having issues about whom should be guilded, and whom doesn't have the best interest in the guild (farming seb all day etc not helping for their 100Fungi tunics *HB is correct on this*) is where we didn't see eye to eye, and I simply don't enjoy playing with people who are that selfish, is what has drawn me to not want to login and or lead anymore. I don't exactly have a plethora of people to choose and recruit from, so you either endure with what you have or you take a break, I chose the latter. What Azrael/Force has been doing these past few weeks I couldn't tell you, I just don't have the desire to lead again given the players I have to work with. Some didn't like my hard core straight up tell you what we did wrong, (Reviewing logs and see who doesn't assist who runs around like a go cart per se) and constructively try and help you work things out, so they complain and boycotted pvp. That's not something I particularly want to be apart of. Despite of what you hear, I am a huge proponent of team work and or gearing people out etc... I completed 7 Rogue epics just to gear people out to have them jump ship 4-5 days when the core people were unable login, Hence "HPT". I think good old chuck even bard kited HPT for like 5 hours to PL him to have him switch forces the next day to the "easier" route.. This isn't something anyone wants to invest in, because we all know as soon as the competition starts to arise, what exactly happened will happen again... Nizzar and crew will fear loss of pixel lust and start emptying out the bank and persuasive offers to lure them to the "other side" at all costs.... Instead of making the server competitive and keeping the sides balanced, "yes balanced" (I know we had 50 you have 27, but those 50 were ungeared and mad under leveled) you opt for the latter..... Invite, Invite, Invite at all costs... Give gear, waive DKP rule whatever it takes to remove ALL competition from the server... That MaelVZ is what kills any server from a solid competitive scene.

[Malevz]

Wipe away if that's what GM's want, but I'd switch to another game. And when it happens again in a few months that one guild is in the lead do what? Wipe again? But only if the loudest people aren't in it? Why not wipe blue too, TMO raids with like 60+ people I hear.

Easy answer: It would kill the server(s).

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it will never be wiped... fools

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damn, nilbog just shit on nihilum HARD

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Homo