Help non soloable classes

[Reiker]

Another thing, there's a lot of underutilized zones, guys. CT has been fixed nicely. The exp is huge. The loot is great. Try it out!

Edit:

One more thing... this topic reminded me of...

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[Halladar]

Originally Posted by Reiker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't get this whole "everyone is already level 50 I can't level now cause there's no one to group with!"

It's 9 PM on Thanksgiving. Not exactly the most populous of times. However...

Actually the lower levels are much better tonight than they have been.

Originally Posted by Reiker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Same goes for any level range. I just don't understand this whole "the game is too hard now that the game's been out 2 months!" mentality.

You read the arguments do with them what you will. Actually I think you are tearing down a strawman though.

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I rolled my character a month late... about November 3rd. Hit 50 around Nov. 18th. 90% grouping, usually with Karsten and others I've met in-game who knew how to play well. It can be done, mang.

Now this is the thing that really gets me.

You made level 50 in 2 weeks. That doesn't seem unusual to you? You are probably going to take this as an accusation, but I never heard of anyone doing this on live unless they had their own druid hanging over them, or their guildies were helping. Or the original tumpy tonic thing on live. Not sure what this latest Kaladim thing was.

You know I think it is probably possible here. If you get a group of people experienced at this game, used to working together, know all the right spots.

Unless the guise or manastone or jboots are involved I doubt you have to wait for a camp.

And maybe have just a little help from other people who have made the slog. Yeah I can see it.

Reiker that story doesn't pass the smell test. For that to happen, you have to have no downtime forming groups, no debacles and cr's that waste a night.

You just decided to start one day, and by crackey you meet some like minded positive individuals and form highly efficient groups that don't screw around by the power of positive thinking? When I form groups it can take an hour to get everyone in one spot, then someone has to leave for real life, someone gets pissed off, we might get trained by some individual camping something, you can't find a cleric, you can't find a warrior...

Hmmm I don't think you are lying, but I don't think your experience is very useful. There is something awful screwy about you guys.

[Reiker]

Okay let's break it down. I averaged about 4 levels / day (/played). That's 16% an hour. Do you really think gaining 16% of a level for every hour is that crazy?

[karsten]

actually reiker has a meth hookup and when he's talking about 4 levels/day, he really means 24 hour days

i didn't level as fast, all i've got is coke and access to copious amounts of lady gaga music

[karsten]

Originally Posted by yaaaflow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

12am to 8am PST is the middle of the night everywhere in the world, check.


Stereotypical American ignorance, check.

hey, du kannst ja meinen was du willst -- die hauptsache ist, dass die meisten, die hier speilen, auch in den USA wohnen. Hat also in dem sinne ueberhaupt nicht mit deinen behauptungen zu tun


oops, stereotype BUSTED

[Widan]

Originally Posted by Reiker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Okay let's break it down. I averaged about 4 levels / day (/played). That's 16% an hour. Do you really think gaining 16% of a level for every hour is that crazy?

So you had 12 days played in 15 days? This thread doesn't apply to you, it's to help make the game more accessible for the casual player, who is in the majority.

[Reiker]

basically.

[Halladar]

Yeah I do.

Okay you made 4 levels a day? Played? that already means you played 12.5 days.

In 15 days.

Right now my thinking is:

1) You played a class that is unbalanced right now, mage or necro.

or
2) You had help from some higher level people.

or
3) Most probably you have grouped with people that played everquest with you before. I think it is possible, though I think you played more than 4 hours a day.

So, you never played eq with karsten (assuming for the moment, you aren't karsten) in eq before? The people you grouped with for the most part aren't people you knew from other times in eq?

Like I said. the story is screwy. You can get 16% (actually better than that I think, I got a level in oasis in about two or 3 hours the other day) an hour in certain spots where you can get steady safe pulls. Which is why all those people are in oasis. But it dries up when you level past that and you have to go to the next spot.

Even with only 168 or so (last time I checked) on this server, I haven't grouped more than once or twice with the same people. Make all the comments you want, but it isn't because I'm alienating people.

And another thing. You guys aren't camping to get equipment. If you have a melee, you are your equipment.

Like I said your story is screwy.

[Reiker]

Karsten is a melee. I had jboots, guise, camped a manastone, all before I was 50... I play a lot, but that's not the point. That's why I broke my leveling down to 16% / hour.

[Casezilla]

Originally Posted by Reiker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's 9 PM on Thanksgiving. Not exactly the most populous of times.

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Basically, at a very low population time, there's players to go group with at every level range.

I agree that those numbers aren't that bad and finding a group at any level range is possible, but that's not a very low population time. Yes, its Thanksgiving, but 9PM EST is pretty prime time if you ask me. The times I'm talking about are the middle of the night when there's often no one in many of those zones. That's when some classes are screwed. EQ isn't supposed to be a game that can only be experienced during prime time US hours. I have a feeling in a few months certain level ranges are going to be like this even during more normal hours. Its definitely an issue that should be considered so new players and off hour players aren't discouraged down the road.