Plane of Growth: Tunare Challenge!

[Arteker]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The link in my post includes evidence showing that the big drops (FT3/5) occurred before Luclin.

i can say i got tunare 2hs pre luclin but before the hander upgrade it was 50 hps not 100

[Arteker]

Originally Posted by pasi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The issue is not the stats on Fist of Nature, but rather that we can't find any evidence of it existing prior to Luclin. The fact that the first screenshots of it are also as a Hand to Hand item further suggest that it was likely added in during the revamp of Tunare/AoW loot.

Tunare fist as i recall was added later, most high end monks run the primal , fol,wurmscalefistwraps.

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[Shinko]

2) Tunare, the 1 HP wonder...with loot and a 10 minute respawn timer. pretty sure she was like the all the time

[Cyph]

In regards to killing her, fair enough. Was just wondering if there was some lore around it.

[koros]

It was all about Gharns and Primal/Fist of lightning for max damage. Pretty sure the first was indeed added later.

http://www.silentredemption.org/showitem.cgi?iid=376

http://www.silentredemption.org/showitem.cgi?iid=363

Here's some dates for the other items. 2001 date on the Melody makes it seem like it was in.

[nilbog]

I'm currently developing this zone, so any additional input is welcome.

The protector script I made works great.

I did have some initial issues with the mini bosses 'calling' particular npcs to an area without adding someone to their hatelist, but I like what I came up with.

Is there a certain amount of time the npcs waited after arriving to their summoner's area? i.e. keeper of the glades calls phase pumas. They path to the location he called them from. How long do they stay before pathing back? Right now I have it set to a few seconds.

edit: additions

Might as well add this here. As far as mini bosses who call npcs to them:

keeper of the glades - phase pumas
Rumbleroot - serene forest spirits
Treah Greenroot - sylvan protectors
Fayl Everstrong - entolling mobs
Odongo Bodongo - entolling mobs

Is that correct? I'm not sure about Odongo, but I saw it listed on one guide.

[pasi]

Is there a certain amount of time the npcs waited after arriving to their summoner's area? i.e. keeper of the glades calls phase pumas. They path to the location he called them from. How long do they stay before pathing back? Right now I have it set to a few seconds.

I touched upon this earlier, but they don't really stay at all - it's just setting a new temporary pathing position before they return to their old. I can maybe get around to FRAPSing this on live soon.

[pasi]

So I fooled around in PoGrowth for a bit.

Mechanically, this is how NPC calling works. I'll use Treah Greenroot as an example.

1) NPC is aggroed. It does a /shout To Signal it's respective underling NPCs.
ie Treah Greenroot shouts, "Sylvan protectors, the glades call for your aid!"

2) The respective underling NPCs then path to the location where Treah Greenroot /shouted. The NPCs do not have aggro when they are called, but when they reach the location, they will either assist their boss or proximity aggro players. The NPCs appear to walk rather than run to this location. This is really only relevant for Tunare since other NPCs will be pathing around the area with their minions, so walk speed is sufficient especially with SoW from roaming druids.

As Treah Greenroot is engaged, he will continue to /shout for help to update the location. The time between calls appears to be based on whether or not Treah is moving to new locations. When I am kiting Treah Greenroot around, the time between calls appears to be 7 seconds.

[Wed Oct 30 19:15:23 2013] Treah Greenroot shouts 'Sylvan protectors, the glades call for your aid!'
[Wed Oct 30 19:15:30 2013] Treah Greenroot shouts 'Sylvan protectors, the glades call for your aid!'
[Wed Oct 30 19:15:37 2013] Treah Greenroot shouts 'Sylvan protectors, the glades call for your aid!'

When I was engaged to Treah Greenroot and stayed within melee range, Treah Greenroot did not /shout beyond the first time.

[Wed Oct 30 19:13:37 2013] Treah Greenroot begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:37 2013] Treah Greenroot shouts 'Sylvan protectors, the glades call for your aid!'
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:38 2013] Game Time: Wednesday, December 18, 3276 - 8 AM
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:38 2013] Earth Time: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 19:13:38
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:39 2013] Your shadows fade.
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:39 2013] You resist the Engulfing Roots spell!
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:40 2013] Treah Greenroot hits YOU for 339 points of damage.
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:40 2013] Treah Greenroot hits YOU for 549 points of damage.
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:41 2013] Treah Greenroot begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:41 2013] You and your mount are thirsty.
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:41 2013] You and your mount are hungry.
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:41 2013] You are out of food and drink.
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:43 2013] You begin casting Harmshield.
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:43 2013] You no longer feel pain. You have been healed for 5 points.
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:45 2013] Treah Greenroot begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:51 2013] Treah Greenroot begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:51 2013] Yikes tells General:1, 'rangers very over played too'
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:52 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:53 2013] A protector of growth tries to kick YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:53 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:53 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:53 2013] A protector of growth tries to kick YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:54 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:54 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:54 2013] Treah Greenroot tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:54 2013] Treah Greenroot tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:54 2013] Treah Greenroot begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:55 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:56 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:57 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:57 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:57 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:57 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:57 2013] Treah Greenroot tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:57 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:57 2013] Treah Greenroot tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:59 2013] Treah Greenroot begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:59 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:59 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:59 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:59 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:59 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:59 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:59 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:59 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:59 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:59 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:00 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:00 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:01 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:01 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:01 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:01 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:01 2013] a sylvan protector begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:01 2013] Treah Greenroot tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:01 2013] Treah Greenroot tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:02 2013] A spirit flux wolf tries to bite YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:02 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:02 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:02 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:02 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:02 2013] Treah Greenroot begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:03 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:03 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:03 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:04 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:04 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:04 2013] A spirit flux wolf tries to bite YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:04 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:04 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:04 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:05 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:05 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:05 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:06 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:06 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:06 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:06 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:06 2013] A spirit flux wolf tries to bite YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:06 2013] A spirit flux wolf tries to bite YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:06 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:07 2013] a protector of growth begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:07 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:07 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:07 2013] a sylvan protector begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:08 2013] Treah Greenroot begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:08 2013] Your invulnerability fades.
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:08 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but YOU dodge!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:08 2013] Your target is too far away, get closer!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:08 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but YOU riposte!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:08 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but YOU block!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:08 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:08 2013] A sylvan protector hits YOU for 175 points of damage.
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:08 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:09 2013] A sylvan protector hits YOU for 40 points of damage.
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:09 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:09 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:09 2013] Your target is too far away, get closer!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:09 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but YOU riposte!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:09 2013] A spirit flux wolf tries to bite YOU, but YOU dodge!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:09 2013] A spirit flux wolf tries to bite YOU, but YOU dodge!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:09 2013] You resist the Careless Lightning spell!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:09 2013] You resist the Immolate spell!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:09 2013] Game Time: Wednesday, December 18, 3276 - 8 AM
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:09 2013] Earth Time: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 19:14:09
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:09 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:09 2013] A protector of growth hits YOU for 36 points of damage.
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:09 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:09 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:09 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:10 2013] A sylvan protector kicks YOU for 33 points of damage.
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:10 2013] a feral amalgam wraps its vines around your legs and attacks.
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:10 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:10 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:10 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:10 2013] A sylvan protector hits YOU for 40 points of damage.
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:10 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:10 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:11 2013] You resist the Winged Death spell!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:11 2013] Treah Greenroot hits YOU for 339 points of damage.
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:11 2013] Treah Greenroot tries to hit YOU, but YOU dodge!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:11 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:11 2013] A protector of growth tries to kick YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:11 2013] A sylvan protector hits YOU for 40 points of damage.
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:11 2013] Your target is too far away, get closer!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:11 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but YOU riposte!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:11 2013] A spirit flux wolf tries to bite YOU, but YOU parry!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:11 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:11 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:11 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:11 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:12 2013] Treah Greenroot begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:12 2013] A sylvan protector tries to kick YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:12 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:12 2013] Game Time: Wednesday, December 18, 3276 - 8 AM
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:12 2013] Earth Time: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 19:14:12
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:12 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:12 2013] A feral amalgam tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:12 2013] A feral amalgam tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:12 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but YOU parry!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:12 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:13 2013] A sylvan protector hits YOU for 40 points of damage.
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:13 2013] A sylvan protector hits YOU for 40 points of damage.
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:13 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:13 2013] A sylvan protector hits YOU for 173 points of damage.
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:13 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but YOU parry!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:13 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but YOU dodge!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:13 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but YOU dodge!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:13 2013] Elderam tells General:1, 'YOu can give pets -- player gear? And they benefit?'
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:13 2013] A spirit flux wolf tries to bite YOU, but YOU parry!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:13 2013] You cannot see your target.
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:13 2013] You cannot see your target.
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:13 2013] A sylvan protector tries to kick YOU, but YOU riposte!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:13 2013] A sylvan protector kicks YOU for 33 points of damage.
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:13 2013] A sylvan protector tries to kick YOU, but YOU parry!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:13 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:13 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:14 2013] A sylvan protector kicks YOU for 33 points of damage.
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:14 2013] A spirit flux wolf tries to bash YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:14 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:14 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:14 2013] A feral amalgam tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:14 2013] A sylvan protector hits YOU for 40 points of damage.
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:14 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:16 2013] Tulisin tells General:1, 'Not bad estimates, but it is hard to actually determine those kinds of stats.'
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:17 2013] You resist the Dustdevil spell!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:17 2013] Treah Greenroot begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:17 2013] a sylvan protector begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:20 2013] Tulisin tells General:1, 'Since forever, Elderam.'
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:26 2013] Treah Greenroot shouts 'Sylvan protectors, the glades call for your aid!'

3) The underling NPCs will path to the location where the /shout occurred. If unaggroed, the NPCs will stick around at the location for 50 seconds. (I originally thought they just pathed there and back, but I used /time with targetting rings to time how long individual protectors arrived/left). Even if the Boss NPC dies, the underlings will still path to the location of the shout.

If anyone wants to contest any of these individual points (or Nilbog needs more evidence), I have screenshots supporting individual points.

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by pasi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1) NPC is aggroed. It does a /shout To Signal it's respective underling NPCs.
ie Treah Greenroot shouts, "Sylvan protectors, the glades call for your aid!"

2) The respective underling NPCs then path to the location where Treah Greenroot /shouted. The NPCs do not have aggro when they are called, but when they reach the location, they will either assist their boss or proximity aggro players. The NPCs appear to walk rather than run to this location.

As Treah Greenroot is engaged, he will continue to /shout for help to update the location. The time between calls appears to be based on whether or not Treah is moving to new locations. When I am kiting Treah Greenroot around, the time between calls appears to be 7 seconds.

When I was engaged to Treah Greenroot and stayed within melee range, Treah Greenroot did not /shout beyond the first time.

3) The underling NPCs will path to the location where the /shout occurred. If unaggroed, the NPCs will stick around at the location for 50 seconds. (I originally thought they just pathed there and back, but I used /time with targetting rings to time how long individual protectors arrived/left). Even if the Boss NPC dies, the underlings will still path to the location of the shout.

Thanks. Edited scripts to allow the npcs to stay for 50 seconds and distance checks to happen every 7 seconds.

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Go Wizards!**

**Not Really

Yarly?

http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20010627.html

Hsagra's Wrath and Porlos' Fury now have a 5 second recast delay.

If you're confused on dates

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EverQue...dows_of_Luclin

Couldn't tell you exactly when but I believe people were working on dragon bane before Luclin tbh. Dat shit is a little fuzzy, mid Velious to when I quit in Luclin.