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Old 11-10-2013, 02:04 AM
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Now I realize it's common courtesy to tip someone for buffs, revives, and ports. I always tip when I ask for any of these services (what I can afford, anyway), but the point is that it's technically a free service from most people and clients don't HAVE to tip if they don't want to. It's extremely petty and tacky, but they don't have to.

But I've run into a few people now that say things like "Porting for donations, at least 25pp" or "Will buff for tips." which gives the impression that they won't port you or buff you unless you give them a donation, turning a complimentary service into a paid one. I've even seen a few cases where newbies have been turned down for buffs or ports after asking politely for one, and I get the feeling it was because the people they were asking knew that they were broke and likely wouldn't have money for a donation.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for tipping someone who spends their time and mana to help you out, I always tip when I can, but when did donations turn into a MANDATORY thing? When did people start acting like "no donation? no port."?
Did you really see a noobie get turned down because they couldnt tip enough? Idk how you could see that going down. Maybe you fibbing about that.

Anyway, its your choice if you want to buy a port from the guy. If a guy is advertising his services and stating there is a payment then it is your choice to do it or not. Dont complain and make a thread about it. Its their choice, why should you get a say in it?

Also, the guy is probably using this as his primary way to farm money. Who wants to spend a couple hours porting and buffing and only make 500p? If someone is gonna spend their time doing this they want to make sure its worth their while
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Old 11-10-2013, 02:09 AM
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Okay, most are anon/roleplay, understandable considering how often some of them get pestered for services. But DEMANDING a donation for their services? It's not a donation if it's mandatory, then it's just a fee.
Really? Really? REALLY? You gonna get humg up and upset about the wordage used? Thats sad. Cmon now. Who gives a rats dick if they say porting for a fee or porting for donations. Its the same thing, you know what they mean.

Man...people like you, OP, how do you actually have the desire or the will to make a thread like this? Dont you just feel...like... A bozo, for making this thread. Just live your life pal. You gotta learn to be a cooler human being pal
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Old 11-10-2013, 02:11 AM
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Really? Really? REALLY? You gonna get humg up and upset about the wordage used? Thats sad. Cmon now. Who gives a rats dick if they say porting for a fee or porting for donations. Its the same thing, you know what they mean.

Man...people like you, OP, how do you actually have the desire or the will to make a thread like this? Dont you just feel...like... A bozo, for making this thread. Just live your life pal. You gotta learn to be a cooler human being pal
I call out bullshit when I see it.
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Old 11-10-2013, 02:15 AM
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ITT: People acting self-important as if the world, and the time of other players, should revolve around them for free.
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Old 11-10-2013, 02:21 AM
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I call out bullshit when I see it.
What exaclty is the bullshit? The guy who is letting you know before hand he is charging for ports...its your decision to buy his port or not.

Do you you know how fun it is to port people around all time for free?
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Old 11-10-2013, 02:26 AM
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its funny that the guy is trying to act like porters/buffers are the assholes when hes the one who pays 1000cp for ports because they said "buffing/porting for donations" and then makes this thread about them
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Old 11-10-2013, 02:27 AM
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As someone who has never played a porting class:

I wouldn't dream of expecting, let alone asking, for a free port from someone I didn't know. I always tip well. Even when I was poor I tipped at least 40pp for a port. You are getting great value for that small amount of plat, sometimes saving you 20-30 minutes worth of running. Hell if its x-continent then it can save you upwards of an hour of your time!

You are also tying up someone else's time, so it seems normal that some incentive would be necessary for them to bother with you - hell, most of the time when I am in game I am not dilly daddling around looking for people to waste my time, but scheming to take over the world of course!

People complaining about some druid trying to make a meager 25pp porting your sorry ass around need to get fucked =P.
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Old 11-10-2013, 02:27 AM
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What exaclty is the bullshit? The guy who is letting you know before hand he is charging for ports...its your decision to buy his port or not.

Do you you know how fun it is to port people around all time for free?
No, the guy who disguises his porting fees as donations. Donations = optional, not automatically hold out your hand for cash or no port.
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Old 11-10-2013, 02:33 AM
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Btw the term "donation" is occasionally used in the same sense in real life. Check out any museum that gives admission for "donation". It allows people to pay what they think is fair, so ideally the wealthier people pay more money to support of the museum and the plebs to get in for $1 if they are willing to accept the ignominy.
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Old 11-10-2013, 02:40 AM
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its funny that the guy is trying to act like porters/buffers are the assholes when hes the one who pays 1000cp for ports because they said "buffing/porting for donations" and then makes this thread about them
LOL. The OP did that? What a douche bag lmao.
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