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[Nizzarr]

Staff should tell us about what was happening so everyone can see the grandeur of TMO's exploit.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Nizzarr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Staff should tell us about what was happening so everyone can see the grandeur of TMO's exploit.

Yeah, I could be wrong, but everything staff and some other people said looks like it's what I said atm.

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't see a single staff post saying it was a dupe anywhere and I never said it wasn't an exploit.

morans.

it was a dupe, and it was being exploited.

Rogean fixed it, and then we went tearing through the logs.

GG

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

it was a dupe, and it was being exploited.

Rogean fixed it, and then we went tearing through the logs.

GG

Dupe with two people, the dagger trade dupe?

Actually, that one was back in Uthgaard's day and I'd imagine it got fixed back then.

[dwightgeary]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't see a single staff post saying it was a dupe anywhere and I never said it wasn't an exploit.

morans.

2 rmt sites are down now ........ hmmmmmmm wonder who they belonged to

[Liia]

Originally Posted by Fazlazen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When you leave your info to someone else making them swear to not give it back ever and then you ask for it back 1 year down the road, you should be thankfull you get anything back.

If I had really listened to you, I wouldn't have given you anything back.

I feel attacked because you specifically complained in OP that TMO took your gear a few years ago. TMO didn't take your gear, you gave your gear to TMO, and as the person directly responsible for your account at the time, I am directly involved.

I'm pretty sure I have never told you to never give me back my infos (unless you have a proof). I did give you my infos because you planned to play Liia over your cleric (Notros) while some other ppl had my infos.

You also told me that you'd never touch anything on my accounts (2 weeks after all my characters were naked(I have GM logs)). And on the other hand you told me that Fauss took everything (You only took my 250k apparently). I don't see why you should feel so attacked if its not you that took my gears.

I also came back 4months later, not a year.

At the end, I probably still the responsible of what hapenned to my accounts. But I shouldn't take all the blame when you do promises that you cant hold.

[Itap]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

we (staff) know the exact number. if Rogean wants to say it, he can. if he tells me i can say it, i will.

Perhaps it's better we don't know. It may ruin the integrity of the server

[Pint]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

we (staff) know the exact number. if Rogean wants to say it, he can. if he tells me i can say it, i will.

response much appreciated, will keep an eye out

[Itap]

Only option is to wipe server when Velious is released

[Susano]

Originally Posted by Liia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I even feel sorry for Internode and Froovy. They did something wrong, but they are still good people to me. I don't judge them for one bad actions.

These types of comments and so many others like them seem to be coming from a lot of people who allowed TMO members access to their characters and/or accompanied them on raids. When I read them, I can only think of the following:

"Stockholm syndrome, or capture–bonding, is a psychological phenomenon in which hostages express empathy and sympathy and have positive feelings toward their captors, sometimes to the point of defending them. These feelings are generally considered irrational in light of the danger or risk endured by the victims, who essentially mistake a lack of abuse from their captors for an act of kindness."

I'm guilty of letting an officer of the guild I'm in have access to my character to help the guild mobilize when I'm not available, but this was always internal to the guild. Anyone allowing someone external to their guild access to their character has to be gaining some form of recompense. I was around for the inception of the A-Team and it was spearheaded by some of the least sociable and greedy players on the server. Some prominent members spend days in camps solo'n items to sell to turn around and pay TMO to tag along on raids and loot rots.

While TMO single handedly ruins the raid scene, people who feed their incessant desire for plat are just as much to blame for the situation this server finds itself. Very strange for a guild that masquerades as a soloist haven bankrolls the biggest raid guild on the server to scoop up it's garbage.