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Old 12-29-2013, 10:58 PM
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why cant you guys just bat phone and log in quicker? we need **Raid Discussion** Sub Fourms For Officer/Leaders of Raiding Guilds
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Old 12-30-2013, 02:15 AM
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LOL ^
You are getting your information from "casual scum" it seems , because you are highly misinformed, and eating up propaganda like I would expect from someone who only reads the forums.
Do you really play in game?
The point in raiding a mob is for the gear. So hope you understand that part?
An I have seen even the biggest raid guild die or wipe , but yet you claim its 0 challenge? What do you consider a "zerg"? what #? 20? 30?
Sounds like your just copy pasting shit from forums and no idea what it even means.
New people join the big guilds daily, and they need gear. A lot of peoples mains are still missing gear too. It is not going to some 7th alt , and most the time it is a main characters upgrade.
There are a few Elites in the top guilds though...you have your small crew that are insanely rich and hold the guild bank / sale items an bank plat an gear up there 7th alt before your main is. But that is not everyone . You are categorizing everyone together falsely IMO.

Any new game is instanced, no corpse runs, port anywhere, be any class at anytime, 0 competition in most, etc the list goes on.
Which it sounds like that is what YOU want. These new games tend especially to your needs. As you say it "casual scumbag" these games are made FOR YOU. There are HUNDREDS of games that do exactly as you wish. This is classic Everquest.
It is not some walk in the park easy mode game , where the casual is as geared as the hardcore. If you want shit handed out than almost any game you name will help you out with that. In todays MMO gaming it is all about the casual getting the same as everyone else, or having the option to pay to win.


That is way to much work for not that big of a problem.
Seems everyone is losing their minds trying to find out a solution for free pixels. Forum questing is not going to work. You will get some mobs out of this. But you guys expecting 100% rotation on EVERY SINGLE RAID MOB are delusional.




I do not think he mentions you lol? Dunno why your other posts about casual scum would matter, there are plenty of casual scum posts the past week.
Also dude is talking about people having 7 level 60s on one account. People that have them all on different accounts are either 1. probably banned because they shared accounts or 2. RMT accounts.
There is no need for characters on different accounts if you do not share them or sale them.

TL DR Good luck with forum questing for dragons
A great classic eq server like this is a blast. Like I said, I could care less about loot. If you care about loot, load up a free live account and within a week you'll have 10x better gear than you can get here. Its fun to relive the good old days of EQ. I actually do play when I'm not forum lurking. Actually one of the best parts of this era of EQ is that the difference between a "casual" and a " raider" was really not big. It wasn't until later expansions that the gap got huge. Have some fun. Play a great simulated version of the game that got us all hooked 14 years ago!
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Old 12-30-2013, 03:00 AM
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I played on live in the "Classic" Era. I was Casual Scum and I was raider. I've never seen anything like this. There wasn't all this poopsocking. Did we park a ranger in a zone to check for spawns? Sure. Usually when someone needed an epic piece, LOOOOOONG after what is considered Classic. On Tribunal, I remember a dragon rotation, so quit whining and bitching that it's not classic. How many people here actually played in 1999-2000? I wonder how many of the people screaming that this or that isn't classic were even around to know what is or isn't classic?

On live you had the guilds full of uneployed basement dwellers, raiding 5-7 nights a week, you had the guild like the ones I raided in that raided 3 nights a week, and you had the casual scum. We didn't call them casual scum. They were just the people that didn't give a shit. They enjoyed the game at the solo or group level and it's social aspect. They weren't here to win. If you wanted your epic, you joined a raiding guild. You didn't join the only guild that could raid your epic loots, you joined A raiding guild. because most of the raiders could handle it. I haven't been on P99 terribly long, but I've only seen one bard epic. How many different guilds have killed trak in the last 6 months?

You dont want every raid mob on a rotation? Put only the epic raid mobs on one.
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Old 12-30-2013, 03:14 AM
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Rogean and gms just sitting back Laughing over all this squabbling while relishing tmos soon to be endless suspension. They'll say it will be resolved after x but then make y rule later to cockblock it. They easily have the abilty to pick one of the dozens of proposals on this board but they'd rather wait and have their favies collect uncontested pd loot and gear every 50+ with trak bps. You can't change human nature and you can't change the competitive sprit of Classic eq. Go play other mmos if u can't hang

It's ok though, even completely innocent tmo like myself and dozens of others didn't share the toys wow style, so we're all bad ppl and deserve 100% arbitrary treatmrnt because consistency is so overrated. This server is a shadow of its former self and a joke at this point lol. I propose we just give all 50+ epics, instance named pops based on how carebare we are, and ban all Alts because Alts give ppl an advAntage over each other which just isn't fair.

I'm not going to even go into the timeline 3 years of kunark almost rofl. If u are new to server and thinking about playing past lvl 30, take my advice and don't waste your time like I have, because at the end of the day the staff here is unpredictable and incredibly slow at development and have really little interest in catering to all players. If they were, they would have treated the many innocent longtime community members with some shred of respect and an OPEN ear
This goes along with what I posted yesterday in my thread, they owe none of us nothing. The staff here is of their own free will, If you don't like how things are run here..GTFO, its really that easy.. ::::Shrugs:::
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Old 12-30-2013, 04:08 AM
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Lazie, you're right that its not ok to bash the GMs for giving me and other EQ lovers something ive (mostly) really enjoyed for free for years. That's why i edited that earlier post, my aim here isn't to hurt. But at the same time its kind of true that this extension of the timeline is at the root of most of the problems here. And that comes down to the dev team. Of course its wrong to expect something from ppl who work for free, but that doesn't change the fact that its been incredibly slow and that has had a detrimental effect.
The root of the problem is not game as it stand. The root of the problem is the players of this game. At some point your character /s is going to be max out in gear. At some point you will have killed all the biggest baddest bosses of current content a ton of times to acquire the pixels you wanted. How much is enough ? apparently to some raiders here their is no max amount of enough.

at no time can you feel you are entitled to anything form the staff. so what if game has been stuck in kunark all this time. you have had the fun of experiencing it. If the current content is not enough to satisfy you then move on to other things beside this game.

How people who play this game can get so much pleasure from preventing others from experiencing what they have totally dominated is beyond me. do people really need that to get some gratification in their life's ??

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Old 12-30-2013, 06:40 AM
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If you wanted your epic, you joined a raiding guild. You didn't join the only guild that could raid your epic loots, you joined A raiding guild. because most of the raiders could handle it.
Yes, that's also how I remember it.
We had not only rotations but public raids.
Or semi public when a smaller guild hosted a raid and accepted people from outside.
Actually all raids I did in Fear were public.
I got my epic necro piece on CT in a public raid because .... I simply won the roll.
Nagafen, Vox, Trak, VS, Sky - I experienced these fights also on public raids.
We had a very strong Japanese guild on live but they would not try even in dream to prevent, leapfrog or disrupt public raids because they'd simply get banned.
They basically raided harder things in VP and took their turn on easier targets.

There is no significant difference in equipment between a casual 60 and a hardcore raider 60 - everybody can get correct resist gear and with a minimum of disciplin and a good raid leader, almost all content can be raided with a public 55-60 raid.

It's beyond me how some individuals here can talk about pre Velious raiding like if it was some rocket science reserved only for the happy few.
Sympathetic and friendly family guilds like Knights who say Ni or Supremacy are as able to raid most targets with a semi public 55-60 raid as any self appointed "elite" raiding guild.
Would these raids sometimes horribly fail ?
Sure like they did on live and so what ?
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Old 12-30-2013, 01:08 PM
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I found this server about 6 months ago. I spend a lot of time forum lurking (while procrastinating at work). Been having an awesome time playing some good ole classic eq (played a lot from 99-03 or so). Lots of ideas are bouncing around, some good, some bad but I don't have enough first hand experience to say what'll work. Just thought I'd add my two cents from a "casual scum" and maybe some others feel the same..
I don't want anything handed to me. Y'all wake up at 3am and put in tons of work to get your pixels.. If you wanna do that go for it. I could care less about loot. In the end what does a piece of loot really mean if you're not having fun getting it? I just want to have a chance to kill a few mobs. I want that feeling of "are we gonna wipe?, ah #$!$, we're gonna wipe!...nooo we made it!" Classic eq. Classic eq didn't have people with tons of accounts with multiple 60s camped out at targets. I don't understand the point of zerging a mob that is no challenge whatsoever for loot that will probably just go to a 7th alt or something.
One thing I have noticed in the 6 months I've been playing is people have seemed the happiest and most optimistic over this last week or so and seem to be having fun. Isn't that the point of this whole project? All this work done to recreate classic eq? This is by far the best classic eq simulator out there and the developers have done an amazing job.
If someone is so focused on "winning" this server maybe they should move to a game that is well..actually new?
Enough of the bullshit. Casual Scum was a term made by people to try and add propaganda. You want to talk about classic EQ? You know what percent of people had epics in Kunark? You know what percentage of casual players had epics in Kunark? The problem is there is content available for a small fraction of people because at the time that was the percent of people who were in the high end. P99 has a different population breakdown and it puzzles me why people don't see that and exclusively blame the most active guild.
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