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Old 02-02-2014, 08:42 PM
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Third is monk.

Hybrids are more trouble than they're worth. The exp penalty kills their utility.
P1999 thinking in a nutshell: 40% hybrid penalty, too much. 44% Iksar monk penalty (most monks being Iksar) escapes notice, though. C'est la vie. As with so many things, perception becomes more important than actuality.

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As for the most valuable class: I'd rate it as Enchanter in a skilled group, or Cleric in an otherwise incompetent group.

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Old 02-02-2014, 09:33 PM
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P1999 thinking in a nutshell: 40% hybrid penalty, too much. 44% Iksar monk penalty (most monks being Iksar) escapes notice, though.
This annoys me to no end. And all a monk does is punch stuff!
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Old 02-02-2014, 05:05 PM
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Anyone not saying an enchanter doesn't know what they're talking about. An enchanter is a group.

Distant second is shaman. Third is monk.
a bard can mez, regen, mana regen, selo's, haste, charm... they are the most versatile and underutilized class in the game and, when played right, an incredibly powerful addition to any group
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Old 02-02-2014, 05:09 PM
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a bard can mez, regen, mana regen, selo's, haste, charm... they are the most versatile and underutilized class in the game and, when played right, an incredibly powerful addition to any group
A bard sucks more exp than they add, and they're less effective against high end mobs. They're a nice class, but there's no situation when a bard is preferable to an enchanter. If you're exping, they're usually a net negative.
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Old 02-02-2014, 05:10 PM
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A bard sucks more exp than they add, and they're less effective against high end mobs. They're a nice class, but there's no situation when a bard is preferable to an enchanter. If you're exping, they're usually a net negative.
the question was "what class, when played masterfully, can bring out the best in a group?"
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Old 02-02-2014, 05:11 PM
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the question was "what class, when played masterfully, can bring out the best in a group?"
I'd assume "the best in a group" involves gaining experience.
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Old 02-02-2014, 05:27 PM
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What's the most valuable class in a game based on class synergy? None of them.
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Old 02-02-2014, 07:01 PM
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Most of the worst laziest players I've ever seen have been tanks who afk auto attack.

Enchanters by far bring the most to a group. With traditional groups try bring haste mezz clarity, charm dps, etc.

Outside of traditional groups chanters have great synergy also with fear, charm, lull, CC.

They fit anywhere. Not really much discussion.
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Old 02-02-2014, 09:03 PM
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The interesting thing about EQ is that the defensive classes are much more interesting/harder to play than the offensive ones. It doesn't take much to hit auto attack, cast ice comet, or ask your pet to go beat on something; its substantially harder to split camps and CC adds. So the strongest group classes are the defensive classes, the ones that keep you alive, and the ones with the best group buffs.

So I think Enchanter and Bard are the best group classes, followed at some distance by Shaman and Monk. This is why I actually think Enchanter/Monk is a fabulous duo. Sure you need a healer, but you can get by with any scrub there.
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Old 02-02-2014, 09:37 PM
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Puller, tank, dps. Worth every bit of the penalty.
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