Okay, okay, okay, fine. I'll bite. Question about Red.

[Pudge]

Originally Posted by Adolphus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think this is a fundamental problem with Red, actually. Having only one competitive guild on the server makes it feel actually less challenging than Blue. PVP is one aspect of Red, but PVE is still there as well and a big draw to people wanting more challenging content. If I wanted PVP only I'd play Call of Duty, not EQ Red . . .

So yeah . . . soon as players join the only competitive guild on Red they are instantly granted all end game content? They don't even have to get to 60 or make any effort at all? I wouldn't be advertising this so openly if I were you. The whole reason I tried out Red was to see if I could be challenged a bit more, not less.

Yep. It really shits up the server when everybody is in the same guild. This is why they are called the bluebie zerg of the box. And I will never join them because I prefer to he a part of the solution and not the problem. But it seems like only 20% of the server feel this way. Some ppl got 0 dignity. Apparently they congregate at R99.

[Fame]

Glad ya liked red bob!

[Mac Drettj]

really shits up the server when one of the end game guild options is full of selfish faggots that deter anyone from joining them, thus creating the landslide of applicants

on red99 50+ u cannot exp without a guild tag, or without friends... so you have to look at the available 50+ guild tags and make a choice

one will act confused that you arent already level 60 best in slot and know how to do everything without being told, and will expect you to two box yourself if you want to port anywhere

the other one will caress you gently, offer exp groups around the clock, kill dragons, and help you progress on your epic and other character building activities

obviously one is the source of the others success

and this:

Originally Posted by citizen1080 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

With all due respect...there is nothing difficult about Blue's FTE Jav Spam raiding.

I do enjoy the raids that we get attacked on a lot more however. Even the raids that are not contested still will have some pvp. Either clearing out people between us and the target or dealing with people trying to take out our stragglers.

Red is vastly more entertaining than Blue high end. No waiting list for camps so you can farm what you want when you want. Don't have to fte poop sock for targets, if its contested you fight for the merb, if not you kill it and move on to the next. And if you are bored and max level you can actually do something besides roll an alt or farm for cash...go hunt people.

Also, getting a VP key on red isn't exactly zero effort. PS and RS are two of the hottest pvp spots outside of KC, you will be constantly hunted while trying to camp those stupidly rare spawns.

[citizen1080]

Originally Posted by Fame [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Glad ya liked red bob!

Thanks sir =) No regrets here. I suck at pvp but enjoying the pve here a lot so far and getting better at the pvp slowly.

[webrunner5]

Originally Posted by Mac Drettj [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

really shits up the server when one of the end game guild options is full of selfish faggots that deter anyone from joining them, thus creating the landslide of applicants

on red99 50+ u cannot exp without a guild tag, or without friends... so you have to look at the available 50+ guild tags and make a choice

one will act confused that you arent already level 60 best in slot and know how to do everything without being told, and will expect you to two box yourself if you want to port anywhere

the other one will caress you gently, offer exp groups around the clock, kill dragons, and help you progress on your epic and other character building activities

obviously one is the source of the others success

and this:

That is a great post. BoB I can not believe you have drank the Kool Aide from there. I know Blue is boring as hell but please do NOT defend Red. Wow, talk about going to the Dark Side!! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] This whole P1999 thingy has gone to total shit.

[Clark]

Originally Posted by webrunner5 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That is a great post. BoB I can not believe you have drank the Kool Aide from there. I know Blue is boring as hell but please do NOT defend Red. Wow, talk about going to the Dark Side!! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] This whole P1999 thingy has gone to total shit.

Lol

[citizen1080]

Originally Posted by webrunner5 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That is a great post. BoB I can not believe you have drank the Kool Aide from there. I know Blue is boring as hell but please do NOT defend Red. Wow, talk about going to the Dark Side!! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] This whole P1999 thingy has gone to total shit.

I will happily defend red because in opinion it is much more fun than blue. If you disagree with my opinions that's fine. In the past i've disagreed with the vast majority of your posts and opinions as most were misinformation and incorrect. But, being the nice guy I am, if i don't have something constructive to say I usually say nothing. I guess red is a bad influence on me after all =)

You also quoted one of the loudest and most outspoken people on the box. Not exactly your average red player.

[Adolphus]

Originally Posted by citizen1080 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

With all due respect...there is nothing difficult about Blue's FTE Jav Spam raiding.

I do enjoy the raids that we get attacked on a lot more however. Even the raids that are not contested still will have some pvp. Either clearing out people between us and the target or dealing with people trying to take out our stragglers.

Red is vastly more entertaining than Blue high end. No waiting list for camps so you can farm what you want when you want. Don't have to fte poop sock for targets, if its contested you fight for the merb, if not you kill it and move on to the next. And if you are bored and max level you can actually do something besides roll an alt or farm for cash...go hunt people.

Also, getting a VP key on red isn't exactly zero effort. PS and RS are two of the hottest pvp spots outside of KC, you will be constantly hunted while trying to camp those stupidly rare spawns.

Thanks for the due respect. I never said blue was a very challenging server . . . the reason I've been trying Red is because I seek more challenge.

While Blue may not be very challenging regarding normal camps, you have to admit that it's still far more challenging in Raids and end game. You can't possibly argue that Red, with only 1 guild dominating all raid content with no competition, is comparable to Blue, which has many capable guilds competing for content. Even with the rotation in place, it's a sad comparison.

Regardless of all that, my main point originally was that Red players probably shouldn't be advertising how "easy" Red is on the Blue forum. That was all I was saying. It's not going to persuade anyone to come over.

[Zalaerian]

VP is always hot for pvp on repop. A lot of pvp is done between monks and bards jav'ing invis and FDs trying to train racnors gwurms ect on each other

[Mac Drettj]

Originally Posted by citizen1080 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I will happily defend red because in opinion it is much more fun than blue. If you disagree with my opinions that's fine. In the past i've disagreed with the vast majority of your posts and opinions as most were misinformation and incorrect. But, being the nice guy I am, if i don't have something constructive to say I usually say nothing. I guess red is a bad influence on me after all =)

You also quoted one of the loudest and most outspoken people on the box. Not exactly your average red player.

U coming @ me?