Casinos

[Grimjaw]

EVE developers strive to keep the "sandboxness" in tact and try to balance risk vs reward with each game-change, where as every other game the developers cave to the whiners and turn it into carebear themepark

Compare EVE to EQLive. One is still a strong sandbox MMO where things you achieved in the first year still mean something. where the other one has been butchered to shit

In EVE, you are never safe from other players. Whether that be getting your ship blown up or all of your $ scammed

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by Fiyero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think it's fairly obvious this ban is targeting people who sit in the EC tunnel taking thousands of plat from people for the .00000001% of supposedly winning a Fungi Tunic before said Casino operator coincidently goes LD with the guy's money.

If you're having trouble discerning that from attacking a blue con mob, I don't know what to tell you.

And if you can't understand there's an entire spectrum from EC scammer casinos to attacking blue cons, I don't know what to tell you. There are hundreds/thousands/millions of ways in which to "gamble" in this game and without any kind of specifics on what is not allowed or why the casinos were banned, it's impossible to tell which of those actions will get you banned and which won't.

[nickme]

SERIOUSLY HOW THE FUCK IS THIS LIKE CLASSIC? I was there. Classic memories discussed between me and my little brother for the last 15 years have always involved casinos. Don't make this a prison server man. It's all EQ has left. There's no where else for us hardcore players to go.

[Fiyero]

Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And if you can't understand there's an entire spectrum from EC scammer casinos to attacking blue cons, I don't know what to tell you.

Attacking blue cons isn't a Casino.

There are hundreds/thousands/millions of ways in which to "gamble" in this game and without any kind of specifics on what is not allowed or why the casinos were banned, it's impossible to tell which of those actions will get you banned and which won't.

Seems pretty simple to me. Don't auction a Casino in the EC tunnel where people give you money and /random in hopes of winning an item.

Clearly the GMs are not going to ban you for killing blue con mobs, seeing as that's kind of required to play the game.

Logic not even once. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Olscratch]

Auctioning casinos/spamming as a casino is still legal as long as you don't accept any bets according to new rules.

Quellious server had casinos during Kunark/Velious era. I'm sure some Moonlight Crusaders can verify.

[Fiyero]

Originally Posted by nickme [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

SERIOUSLY HOW THE FUCK IS THIS LIKE CLASSIC? I was there. Classic memories discussed between me and my little brother for the last 15 years have always involved casinos. Don't make this a prison server man. It's all EQ has left. There's no where else for us hardcore players to go.

Casinos were banned on some servers on live. Verant didn't have a policy for it, but GMs could allow them or ban them.

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by Olscratch [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Auctioning casinos/spamming as a casino is still legal as long as you don't accept any bets according to new rules.

How do you know this? Perhaps it was all the casino spam that was a factor in shutting down the casinos. They haven't specified the rules or the reasons for the rules, so you have no idea whether such an action would result in a ban.

[Olscratch]

"Operation or use of "casinos", including, but not limited to, dice rolls, card games, "guessing" games, and any other form of gambling."

Don't see anything about spamming. Long as I'm not operating should be g2g spamwise.

[zforrestal]

Originally Posted by nickme [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

SERIOUSLY HOW THE FUCK IS THIS LIKE CLASSIC? I was there. Don't make this a prison server man.

The casino ban to me is more than just a ban.. it an infringement on basic rights that should be applied even if it's just a video game...

[Tenlaar]

Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Without some kind of specificity in regards to what gambling means in EQ, the rule is overly vague and open to interpretation.

Seems like only casino operators are having trouble with interpreting this rule. What a strange coincidence.