Patch Notes: December 3rd, 2014

[chriz]

Originally Posted by SamwiseRed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

gamma seems classic for me. i dont think people realize how hard it was to see in some places in classic. you know, caves with no light were actually dark and shit. too bad whiners gonna get it reverted.

most of us remember how dark it could get, but very, very few played it like that. they changed the gamma up so you actully could play, we did that from day one 99 ourselfs

[SamwiseRed]

Originally Posted by chriz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

most of us remember how dark it could get, but very, very few played it like that. they changed the gamma up so you actully could play, we did that from day one 99 ourselfs

dunno i turned my gamma up in classic and still had a hard time seeing. maybe my voodoo2 or whatever i had before voodoo3 just sucked ass.

[chriz]

Originally Posted by SamwiseRed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

dunno i turned my gamma up in classic and still had a hard time seeing. maybe my voodoo2 or whatever i had before voodoo3 just sucked ass.

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[jolanar]

Originally Posted by SamwiseRed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

gamma seems classic for me. i dont think people realize how hard it was to see in some places in classic. you know, caves with no light were actually dark and shit. too bad whiners gonna get it reverted.

As a barbarian without a light source you literally couldn't see anything when walking through the cave to blackburrow. You pretty much just had to walk in that direction and eventually you found the zone if you didn't get turned around.

[SamwiseRed]

Originally Posted by jolanar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As a barbarian without a light source you literally couldn't see anything when walking through the cave to blackburrow. You pretty much just had to walk in that direction and eventually you found the zone if you didn't get turned around.

thats how i remember it too buddy. these wow nerds dont get it.

[hammertime7795]

Originally Posted by jolanar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As a barbarian without a light source you literally couldn't see anything when walking through the cave to blackburrow. You pretty much just had to walk in that direction and eventually you found the zone if you didn't get turned around.

Very true and the devs said that it was a mistake to do that. They still say that. A couple years ago at SoE live they were talking about it.

[Haynar]

Originally Posted by jolanar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As a barbarian without a light source you literally couldn't see anything when walking through the cave to blackburrow. You pretty much just had to walk in that direction and eventually you found the zone if you didn't get turned around.

And with gamma changes, this was one of the places this was tested to reproduce.

There should be barb newb bodies scattered everywhere.

H

[SamwiseRed]

Originally Posted by Haynar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And with gamma changes, this was one of the places this was tested to reproduce.

There should be barb newb bodies scattered everywhere.

H

just tested highkeep. shit looked classic. basement actually looked creepy. seeing those goblins with their beady little eyes surrounded by darkness. pras. dont fix.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Haynar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And with gamma changes, this was one of the places this was tested to reproduce.

There should be barb newb bodies scattered everywhere.

H

but mostly upon the altar in honor of HP Haynar.

[Wasqa]

Originally Posted by SamwiseRed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

gamma seems classic for me. i dont think people realize how hard it was to see in some places in classic. you know, caves with no light were actually dark and shit. too bad whiners gonna get it reverted.

The problem is they adjust gamma instead of 3D world. In "Classic" before Kunark, the 3D world was dark, but with the right equipment spells or racial visions you could see better. Changing Gamma is not the same as "Classic" darker 3D world. Even when the game came out the 1st week you could clearly see your UI, could read textb could see the ikons of the loot, could see PC names. When you change gamma, the 2D graphics affected as well; therefore, not "Classic".

I am curious why the darkness being implemented in the first place? To bring the atmosphere or to force people to experience the first ever made 3D MMPRPG the way it used to be played? Why not change the zone in times to 2-4 minutes the way it used to be with the old PCs and 19200 modems? How about forcing the 3D world to a tiny window in the middle of your screen and 1st person only view? Not allowing custom UIs? That was the "Classic" that was fun. Yes it was fun for the first ever 3D MMPORG, but since then hardware got better, Verant learned from experience and feedback of the players and by the Time Kunark came out, they have adjusted the engine. REMOVED dankness so people did not have to increase their gamma settings on their monitors. Made the game more enjoyable.

For those who think adjusting the gamma to recreate the old EQ experience would be a good addition, there does not have to be a global fix. Just go to your eqclient.ini and change the following line:
Gamma=5

Done.

If not dark enough for you keep reducing the Gamma value. Problem solved. You are happy and the other 90% of the server population happy. And no need to force people to brake their eyes unless they want to.