Rampage stall on VS kill

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Ella`Ella [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Except the claim is against Rampage. Thanks.

still does not justify your use of the strategy. and shifting blame to rampage never will, either.

[HalflingWarrior]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

training/stalling still against the rules IIRC. don't care whether or not it's the only strat TMO has.

It's only against the rules if your guild is one other than <TMO> or <Rampage>

I think FRAPS petition videos, hell ALL raid-related petition content for that matter, should be made PUBLICLY AVAILABLE.

Seems to me anytime <TMO> or <Rampage> get reported GMs require multiple FRAPS video from multiple angles before they'll even begin looking into the problem.

On the other hand if you're <BDA> or <Dolji> (back when they existed) a simple in-game petition is all the GMs need to show up and start DTing your raid members.

Unless the shit's made public I refuse to believe that there isn't favoritism, or at the VERY LEAST a higher burden of proof required, for certain guilds that other certain guilds are not bound by.

[Clockw0rk]

When guilds will never get suspended for more than a week nor during actual mob spawn times, things will never change

[HalflingWarrior]

Originally Posted by Clockw0rk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When guilds will never get suspended for more than a week nor during actual mob spawn times, things will never change

Keep in mind that <TMO> and <IB> with the cooperation of the GMs are the ones who designed the entire system; and they designed it to be in THEIR favor.

<Random Class R Guild01> is hurt FAR MORE by a weeklong suspension that a guild like <TMO> or <IB> who only REALLY care about VP dragons....and know when said VP dragons are due to be in window. Therefore they carefully select when they will blatantly break the rules because, if somehow 15 people manage to FRAPS them from 74 different angles the punishment they receive ultimately won't hurt them.

PS - Have fun in Velious! When you nerds cannot even agree on who's gonna kill Venril Sathir, FIVE YEARS into Kunark well......I think you can deduce what Velious raiding will look like!!!

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by HalflingWarrior [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Keep in mind that <TMO> and <IB> with the cooperation of the GMs are the ones who designed the entire system; and they designed it to be in THEIR favor.

<Random Class R Guild01> is hurt FAR MORE by a weeklong suspension that a guild like <TMO> or <IB> who only REALLY care about VP dragons....and know when said VP dragons are due to be in window. Therefore they carefully select when they will blatantly break the rules because, if somehow 15 people manage to FRAPS them from 74 different angles the punishment they receive ultimately won't hurt them.

PS - Have fun in Velious! When you nerds cannot even agree on who's gonna kill Venril Sathir, FIVE YEARS into Kunark well......I think you can deduce what Velious raiding will look like!!!

Most of us hate PetitionQuest. Nice try though. It makes the game terrible for all parties. I'm all for public petitions for the whole server to see.

[HalflingWarrior]

Originally Posted by Lazie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Most of us hate PetitionQuest. Nice try though. It makes the game terrible for all parties. I'm all for public petitions for the whole server to see.

Raid-related petitions absolutely should be 100% publicly available and recorded.

There's no reason to have it hidden away. Good deeds are done in the light of day while evil deeds are shrouded in darkness and all that nonsense.

[Frieza_Prexus]

Originally Posted by HalflingWarrior [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Raid-related petitions absolutely should be 100% publicly available and recorded.

There's no reason to have it hidden away. Good deeds are done in the light of day while evil deeds are shrouded in darkness and all that nonsense.

You are absolutely correct.

I look forward to your support on this measure.

[Clark]

Originally Posted by HalflingWarrior [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Raid-related petitions absolutely should be 100% publicly available and recorded.

There's no reason to have it hidden away. Good deeds are done in the light of day while evil deeds are shrouded in darkness and all that nonsense.

100% agree.

If I applied to be a GM back in the day everything would all be public, I'd invis stalk boss spawns, and wouldn't focus on a twitch stream. If I ever would have envisioned things being this poor I would have for sure.

[Turp]

Originally Posted by Lazie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

public petitions for the whole server to see.

Great idea for RAID petitions. Keep the whatever else private but for raid petitions we need a system that is more open. What we have now (1 GM ruling) is causing to many mistakes because they won't (or don't) have the time to put into "babysitting" adults for free. Which is perfectly understandable. But we got a lot of people that play here so why not cut GM work AND boost the community in one fell swoop?
Let the community police itself. Public RAID petitions!
The idea would severely reduce raid petition quest and would hold those accountable that make the rulings (at the very least it should be 3 people).
Also this would hold leaders accountable that are petitioning everything.

It would not only clean up a lot of unnecessary petitions but like said it would cut the GM's work time , because the people would do the work , than the GM would just read an come to the same conclusion that 100+ other people already worked out an spent time on.
Instead of the "classic" wild ban hammer swings we get now, with a public watch it would be calculated and picked apart more thoroughly.
Which in turn would give you the most fair ruling.

BUT... ya know how far common sense goes on this server.
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[Frieza_Prexus]

Originally Posted by HalflingWarrior [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Keep in mind that <TMO> and <IB> with the cooperation of the GMs are the ones who designed the entire system; and they designed it to be in THEIR favor.

<Random Class R Guild01> is hurt FAR MORE by a weeklong suspension that a guild like <TMO> or <IB> who only REALLY care about VP dragons....and know when said VP dragons are due to be in window. Therefore they carefully select when they will blatantly break the rules because, if somehow 15 people manage to FRAPS them from 74 different angles the punishment they receive ultimately won't hurt them.

PS - Have fun in Velious! When you nerds cannot even agree on who's gonna kill Venril Sathir, FIVE YEARS into Kunark well......I think you can deduce what Velious raiding will look like!!!

The system wasn't really designed. It was simply arrived at. That much is obvious after even a passing glance at the raid scene.

There's actually an effort by some of the high end community to redesign the system to be more efficient, equitable, and fair to all of the population.