Does God / a supreme being exist?

[Theldios]

Originally Posted by Stanlei [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I went to a cathloic school and had first hand experience on how christians are taught.

Really so you went to Catechism or just to a Catholic Church owned school?
There is a big difference you know.

So if you did go to Catechism then you must have learned the Seven Sacraments correct?
So do tell what are they?

[Malrubius]

Originally Posted by Thelastaxi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think the notion of a god of infinite love sending me to hell to burn forever for doubting his existence is absurd at best.

Me too. But I don't see what that has to do with the idea of God, or a god, existing or not existing.

Most Atheists and many Christians tend to think of God as an old man in the sky and/or something like what you describe.

Both groups should seriously consider evolving. Read Tolstoy's views, or the Dalai Lama's, or hell, even Einstein's...

A knowledge of the existence of something we cannot penetrate, of the manifestations of the profoundest reason and the most radiant beauty - it is this knowledge and this emotion that constitute the truly religious attitude; in this sense, and in this alone, I am a deeply religious man. (Albert Einstein)

I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it. (Albert Einstein, 1954)

I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with the fates and actions of human beings. (Albert Einstein)

Again...evolve (as much as you can on an internet forum anyway [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] ).

[isitatomic]

A boss in Heaven is the best excuse for a boss on earth.

If God really existed, it would be necessary to abolish him.

As long as we have a master in heaven, we will be slaves on earth.



(Bakunin was an international terrorist and a miserable political theorist, but when you're right you're right)

[Aarone]

Sigh.....

[Dach]

The fool says in his heart, "There is no God."

Sincerely,

God

[Bojangles]

I am amazed at how many of you just don't get it. There is evidence. It is indisputable that evidence exists. The veracity of the evidence is what can be disputed.

"There is no evidence" is an objective statement which can be easily disproven.

"There is no evidence that I find credible" is a subjective statement.

Originally Posted by isitatomic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A boss in Heaven is the best excuse for a boss on earth.

If God really existed, it would be necessary to abolish him.

As long as we have a master in heaven, we will be slaves on earth.



(Bakunin was an international terrorist and a miserable political theorist, but when you're right you're right)

Wow, way to denigrate your own source.

Originally Posted by Villide [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Perhaps I am brainwashed, but that does not preclude the possibility that you are as well.

Is it possible to be brainwashed to be a lapsed Catholic agnostic who can't quite bring himself to give a shit about his own beliefs, much less others' beliefs? I think my (lack of) beliefs is a pretty good sign that I am not brainwashed. My problem with the atheists is that it ticks off my OCD need for accuracy and logic. Stating that there is no evidence for the existence of God when there obviously is evidence makes me start to twitch. Debate the accuracy of that evidence all you want.

Originally Posted by Villide [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Difference is, I was brainwashed into the cult of religion at an early age. When I grew up, I required a bit of evidence to continue believing in some invisible, all-powerful being. That evidence just doesn't exist. Until it does, I'll continue to see it the way I see it.

I know, I know...this is the part of the program where we discuss "faith". So I'll just concede the victory to you on this argument, because there's no way I can win that one.

Now you seem to be saying that you do not believe 1 way or the other. In which case my twitching at logical inaccuracy will subside.

[Kassel]

I am amazed at how many of you just don't get it. There is evidence. It is indisputable that evidence exists.

do tell

[Goobles]

If you haven't done mushrooms, then you won't know anything about God or whatever it's called.

In my opinion.. yes, there is. But I believe that religion is shit. It's all the same people. Learn about them.

[Maurk]

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[fastboy21]

Explain to me how "the dark ages" were caused by Christianity again?

(They weren't.)