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10-12-2010, 09:40 PM
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If you need the threat of heaven or hell, with some vengful being watching over you ready to eternally damn you in order to not be a jerk, then go for it.
If you can be a decent person without the threat of punishment from an overbearing father figure then go for it. If there is a form of afterlife and something is going to judge my actions in life to determine weather it will be pleasant or nasty, I would hope that the judgment was on how I lived my life and not weather or not I provided lip service to a corporation that derives it's authority by stating that they are the conduit to a supreme being. As for evidence, I've read reports of people stating that they have been touched physically by the Flying Spaghetti Monster, and I still have my doubts as to the veracity of their claims. At least their church is a pirate ship, and their base tenet is "don't be a jerk to others". Oh, and the diminishing number of pirates is the cause of global warming. It's true, they have a chart. | ||
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10-13-2010, 05:20 AM
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Live a good life, procreate, and be nice to everybody.
If there's a god, you'll be cool. If not, people will say nice things about you and keep your gravestone clean. Word.
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10-13-2010, 05:35 AM
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I think the notion of a god of infinite love sending me to hell to burn forever for doubting his existence is absurd at best.
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10-13-2010, 07:07 AM
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If you haven't seen this, watch it. If you have then you know what I'm talking about. If you are religious, please click this, don't just skip it either. He makes some VERY valid points. I for one agree with Bill, if we (humans) don't quit talking to invisable people we are all dead, period.
When you take a step back and think about all the things that your religion tells you are unacceptable, ask yourself, would God (an all knowing being) act in these ways? believe in these things? promote violence like religious people do? Please read up on Horus (Egyptian Sun God) Or Indra, Joseph (from the bible), almost any major regligious icon and tell me that you can't make the exact same story about cristianity if you just put "Jesus" in the story insted of any of these figures. Biggest problem with christians is they don't even study their own religion, they are simply taught at a young age to do as your told and not ask questions. Questions are heresy and will not be tolerated. If you care to dispute this with me feel free, I went to a cathloic school and had first hand experience on how christians are taught. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jETVUulGwc
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10-13-2010, 01:10 PM
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There is a big difference you know. So if you did go to Catechism then you must have learned the Seven Sacraments correct? So do tell what are they? | |||
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10-15-2010, 07:35 AM
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Honestly I can not understand why any (free thinking) person that actually has researched the knowledge and history of organized religion can still believe in it. At one point I was like the rest of you church-goers, however it took a VERY small amount of research to actually see the corruption that organized religion pushes. Infact, I'd wager that the world would be largely without war or poverty if the idea of organized religion had never been invented. You can not use the excuse that you've "felt the presence of god" as a basis of argument either, as you have never met the fuker therefore you have no idea what his presence feels like. Furthermore, the people that you (as church-goers) have "running the show" are filthy rich, something that your messiah openly stated would get you nothing more than pain and anguish. Yet you abide what they say as if it were fact? You listen to them in their decision making without investigating for yourself what their internal motives are? Sounds an awful lot like suicide bombers to me. At least the kamikazes had it right, they were at the very least killing them selves for a REAL reason. Not some falsification used to create an international military. Put it to you this way, if the church calls a war against another religion you will vow your support 100%, the reason you "believe" in something bigger than yourself. News flash dickhead, so did Jim Jones.
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10-15-2010, 07:43 AM
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10-15-2010, 07:50 AM
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Apparently you don't need to go to Catechism to partake in these events, or I was mislead and I actually was going to Catechism. However I find this entirely unlikely because I didn't even learn what Catechism was untill after I left that school.
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10-15-2010, 07:52 AM
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10-13-2010, 12:14 PM
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