Hey Forsaken - Page 6

Cecily · #1 06-10-2015, 11:16 AM

The vast majority of Rampage was composed of IB. I don't see a distinction there, and if you really wanna split hairs... Lord Bob merger is still fairly recent.

Cecily · #2 06-10-2015, 11:31 AM

That figure was probably in reference to Unbrella's 3/17 post, possibly made up on the spot then, claiming Rampage's membership was 2/3s to over 75% old IB.

Cecily · #3 06-10-2015, 11:33 AM

Hard to get an accurate head count because they didn't kill any class R mobs!

arsenalpow · #4 06-10-2015, 11:37 AM

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Hard to get an accurate head count because they didn't kill any class R mobs!

I think that's the distinct point that you guys keep overlooking. Rampage remained in C. The only relevant scrutiny had to do with dodging some parts of a suspension, which they ended up serving (partially)

Forsaken dipping into R was grimy and punished accordingly.

Cecily · #5 06-10-2015, 11:44 AM

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Forsaken dipping into R was grimy and punished accordingly.

And I can understand why you, as leader of a class R guild, feel that way. However, it could have gone either way. I don't agree with you that they did anything wrong. Lol blue, I guess.

Alarti0001 · #6 06-10-2015, 11:44 AM

This thread is a trap and its really just an indication about how unclear and stupid the raid rules/scene is on blue.

Sirken stated in his stream just the other day that he likes vague raid rules so it limits rule-lawyering. Of course this just allows GM's to hand out suspensions in an uneven and unintelligent manner.

Forsaken is a new entity with new leadership and new DKP. This was raid one for them and the suspension is unbalanced at best... which is another reason Chest would be supporting it.

I do find it funny that Forsaken is suspended but trying to apply past precedent on blue is equally funny. When has precedent ever mattered here? Enjoy lawyerquest.

Ravager · #7 06-10-2015, 12:14 PM

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Herpa derpa derp.

Prove it.

Prismaticshop · #8 06-10-2015, 11:36 AM

Forsaken is taking 2 weeks suspension, it's not that bad tbh.

Though you could argue when an new entity is a new entity ?

IB became Rampage : New website (x) , New leadership (x) , New Guild Name (x) , bigger chunk of new players (like 70% of A team came over) , 10 or 15% of IB quit.

TMO Becomes Forsaken : new website (x) , new leadership(x), new guild name (x), some TMO quit, some fresh blood from R guilds (x).

Yet harsh suspension. clear double standard here, but Rogean does what he does, it's his box I guess.

arsenalpow · #9 06-10-2015, 11:38 AM

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Forsaken is taking 2 weeks suspension, it's not that bad tbh.

Though you could argue when an new entity is a new entity ?

IB became Rampage : New website (x) , New leadership (x) , New Guild Name (x) , bigger chunk of new players (like 70% of A team came over) , 10 or 15% of IB quit.

TMO Becomes Forsaken : new website (x) , new leadership(x), new guild name (x), some TMO quit, some fresh blood from R guilds (x).

Yet harsh suspension. clear double standard here, but Rogean does what he does, it's his box I guess.

What fresh blood from R guilds? The one person that came over from Omni??

Prismaticshop · #10 06-10-2015, 11:40 AM

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What fresh blood from R guilds? The one person that came over from Omni??

when I looked in game yesterday they had many new names that aren't on that list who come from several class R guilds, but I guess what matters is at the time of death of these kills which were their first.