Hey Forsaken

[Tiggles]

Rampage was formed from IB and Ateam and The IB membership rampage did follow through with their suspensions (no mobs in window anyways)

Can't compare forsaken to to rampage,what forsaken did was wrong. It is an honest mistake though they will recover.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Misek84 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you wanna argue about some minor details (85% of IB moved over while 95% of TMo moved over or whatever) go ahead. There are no specific rules what is considered a "new guild" anyways.

What is the likelihood of your 85% figure being fabricated on the spot in order to prove your point? Do you have any actual numbers to back that claim?

[Cecily]

That figure was probably in reference to Unbrella's 3/17 post, possibly made up on the spot then, claiming Rampage's membership was 2/3s to over 75% old IB.

[Misek84]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What is the likelihood of your 85% figure being fabricated on the spot in order to prove your point? Do you have any actual numbers to back that claim?

It is made up thats why i but "or whatever" after it because no one knows exactly the %. But lets be serious most of the raiding people in ramp came from IB

[Cecily]

Hard to get an accurate head count because they didn't kill any class R mobs!

[Prismaticshop]

Forsaken is taking 2 weeks suspension, it's not that bad tbh.

Though you could argue when an new entity is a new entity ?

IB became Rampage : New website (x) , New leadership (x) , New Guild Name (x) , bigger chunk of new players (like 70% of A team came over) , 10 or 15% of IB quit.

TMO Becomes Forsaken : new website (x) , new leadership(x), new guild name (x), some TMO quit, some fresh blood from R guilds (x).

Yet harsh suspension. clear double standard here, but Rogean does what he does, it's his box I guess.

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hard to get an accurate head count because they didn't kill any class R mobs!

I think that's the distinct point that you guys keep overlooking. Rampage remained in C. The only relevant scrutiny had to do with dodging some parts of a suspension, which they ended up serving (partially)

Forsaken dipping into R was grimy and punished accordingly.

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Prismaticshop [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Forsaken is taking 2 weeks suspension, it's not that bad tbh.

Though you could argue when an new entity is a new entity ?

IB became Rampage : New website (x) , New leadership (x) , New Guild Name (x) , bigger chunk of new players (like 70% of A team came over) , 10 or 15% of IB quit.

TMO Becomes Forsaken : new website (x) , new leadership(x), new guild name (x), some TMO quit, some fresh blood from R guilds (x).

Yet harsh suspension. clear double standard here, but Rogean does what he does, it's his box I guess.

What fresh blood from R guilds? The one person that came over from Omni??

[Shinko]

hey don't be bashing my great idea chest

[Prismaticshop]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What fresh blood from R guilds? The one person that came over from Omni??

when I looked in game yesterday they had many new names that aren't on that list who come from several class R guilds, but I guess what matters is at the time of death of these kills which were their first.